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Jan 20, 2017 12:00:28 PM

MKSGR: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany , Germany; Posts: 8098, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 17, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

RC:
MKSGR:
TB993tt:
My 7GT2 running a real 660PS/830NM did 0-300kph in 25s so this new beast with its PDK system will be sub 23s IMO, this is faster than all the competition I think ?

Personally, I feel 23s would be fast enough - if the track performance is excellent.

The GT2 RS needs to do 0-200 kph in under 9 seconds and 0-300 kph in under 24 seconds. Otherwise, the track performance won't matter.

I still believe that people will guy this car even if it doesn't deliver the straight line performance I am hoping for (secretly I am rooting for 0-200 kph under 8.5 seconds and 0-300 kph under 22 seconds but I have been disappointed by Porsche before, so... ). With some, rumored, active aerodynamics, this could be achievable. Even with 650-670 hp, depending on the weight.

The huge rear wing might be a significant aerodynamic challenge in the higher speed range - but I agree with your "minimum requirements". That seems necessary and possible Smiley

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Jan 20, 2017 12:27:02 PM

TB993tt: Rennteam Pro; Loc: manchester , United Kingdom; Posts: 2280, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 22, 2002; Reply to: MKSGR

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Funny how we are now sort of "expecting" 0-300kph in under 22s, five years ago the only production car which could do this was Veyron, technology sprints forward wink

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Jan 20, 2017 12:49:51 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: TB993tt

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

TB993tt:
Funny how we are now sort of "expecting" 0-300kph in under 22s, five years ago the only production car which could do this was Veyron, technology sprints forward

I know, I know but with challenging emissions regulations and weights (hybrids, ELVs), I think that these times will be over soon. Unless new tech will be available.

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Jan 20, 2017 2:14:24 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Hp and performance that are totally useless on public roads. This car will be too much for 99.9% of the drivers.There must something to the view that these monster are bought to demonstrate that my penis is bigger than yours. devil

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Jan 20, 2017 2:23:44 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: nberry

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

nberry:
my penis is bigger than yours.

As discussed, Nick. Its to do with the amount of chest hair one has , not the size of ones penis, buddy... Smiley ...

If you need confirmation and further information on this subject then please contact ""The Rennteam Bush Adviser"" = RC... Smiley ...

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Jan 20, 2017 2:48:02 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: throt

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

throt:
nberry:
my penis is bigger than yours.

As discussed, Nick. Its to do with the amount of chest hair one has , not the size of ones penis, buddy......

If you need confirmation and further information on this subject then please contact ""The Rennteam Bush Adviser"" = RC......

Absolutely. Smiley Smiley Size does matter though, hair and...otherwise. Smiley Smiley

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Jan 20, 2017 2:51:43 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

RC:
throt:
nberry:
my penis is bigger than yours.

As discussed, Nick. Its to do with the amount of chest hair one has , not the size of ones penis, buddy......

If you need confirmation and further information on this subject then please contact ""The Rennteam Bush Adviser"" = RC......

Absolutely. Size does matter though, hair and...otherwise.

Smiley Smiley

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Jan 20, 2017 2:53:11 PM

BiTurbo: Rennteam Master; Loc: X , United States; Posts: 3251, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2006; Reply to: throt

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Jan 20, 2017 2:55:14 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

If thats it, I wannit indecision ..

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Jan 20, 2017 3:00:38 PM

BiTurbo: Rennteam Master; Loc: X , United States; Posts: 3251, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2006; Reply to: nberry

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

nberry:

Hp and performance that are totally useless on public roads. This car will be too much for 99.9% of the drivers.There must something to the view that these monster are bought to demonstrate that my penis is bigger than yours.

I have a thread to update, so you must understand any future sportscars being wrecked keeps my thread alive..... Smiley

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Jan 20, 2017 4:33:43 PM

nberry: Rennteam VIP; Loc: La Jolla, USA , United States; Posts: 13737, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

BiTurbo:

nberry:

Hp and performance that are totally useless on public roads. This car will be too much for 99.9% of the drivers.There must something to the view that these monster are bought to demonstrate that my penis is bigger than yours.

I have a thread to update, so you must understand any future sportscars being wrecked keeps my thread alive.....

Smiley Smiley

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Jan 22, 2017 7:03:50 AM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6920, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

BiTurbo:

3.8 L four cylinder? Strange!

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Jan 22, 2017 7:44:21 AM

BiTurbo: Rennteam Master; Loc: X , United States; Posts: 3251, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2006; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Leawood911:

3.8 L four cylinder? Strange!

B6 ?

4 valves per cylinder ? 4 camshafts = DOHC ?

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Jan 22, 2017 10:19:22 AM

J.Seven: Rennteam Master; Loc: Estoril , Portugal; Posts: 3201, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 16, 2002; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Leawood911:
BiTurbo:
3.8 L four cylinder? Strange!

I believe it´s a bug, engine can only be 6 cilinder.

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Jan 22, 2017 10:21:51 AM

Kobalt: Expert; Loc: Europe , Sweden; Posts: 1819, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 18, 2015; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

First I liked the roll bar: easy to put stuff in the rear.

Not so sure that the angle on the belts is OK when crashing: A lot of pressure on the shoulders and possible back injuries on impact.

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Jan 22, 2017 4:47:44 PM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: Kobalt

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I could never understand these over-the-top tuners, it looks hideous angry

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Jan 22, 2017 5:27:55 PM

J.Seven: Rennteam Master; Loc: Estoril , Portugal; Posts: 3201, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 16, 2002; Reply to: Atzporsche

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There´s a market for it, Middle East, China, Russian!

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Jan 23, 2017 11:21:04 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: J.Seven

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Look at the price tag, guys. You have to be crazy to spend that much money on such a car.

Better buy a 488GTB, 675LT, Aventador SV or whatever instead.

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Jan 23, 2017 12:45:57 PM

J.Seven: Rennteam Master; Loc: Estoril , Portugal; Posts: 3201, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 16, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

RC:
Look at the price tag, guys. You have to be crazy to spend that much money on such a car.

Better buy a 488GTB, 675LT, Aventador SV or whatever instead.

Not only crazy Smiley

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Jan 23, 2017 12:48:24 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: J.Seven

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

J.Seven:
RC:
Look at the price tag, guys. You have to be crazy to spend that much money on such a car.

Better buy a 488GTB, 675LT, Aventador SV or whatever instead.

Not only crazy

Well...I didn't want to insult anyone. Smiley Smiley

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Jan 23, 2017 1:59:15 PM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5884, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

One interesting point of detail is whether the 991 GT2 RS will include an extra "boost" to augment the turbo-charged flat-six engine, which would help those acceleration stats and lap times... smiley

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Jan 23, 2017 2:25:09 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Boxster Coupe GTS

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Boxster Coupe GTS:
One interesting point of detail is whether the 991 GT2 RS will include an extra "boost" to augment the turbo-charged flat-six engine, which would help those acceleration stats and lap times...

Overboost? Yes. How long and when? I don't have a clue (yet). As far as I heard, the GT2 won't use VTG chargers but some sort of new(?) or improved turbo tech. Will be interesting...

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Jan 23, 2017 8:37:56 PM

BiTurbo: Rennteam Master; Loc: X , United States; Posts: 3251, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 27, 2006; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

RC:
Overboost? Yes. How long and when? I don't have a clue (yet). As far as I heard, the GT2 won't use VTG chargers but some sort of new(?) or improved turbo tech. Will be interesting...

Smiley

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Jan 23, 2017 10:36:34 PM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3993, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

RC:
Overboost? Yes. How long and when? I don't have a clue (yet). As far as I heard, the GT2 won't use VTG chargers but some sort of new(?) or improved turbo tech. Will be interesting...

Electric motor on the impeller/compressor shaft to "pre-spin" the boost during low-flow periods????

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Jan 23, 2017 10:50:54 PM

Targa Tim: Expert; Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada , Canada; Posts: 1475, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 3, 2005; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

BiTurbo:
RC:
Overboost? Yes. How long and when? I don't have a clue (yet). As far as I heard, the GT2 won't use VTG chargers but some sort of new(?) or improved turbo tech. Will be interesting...

Smiley Smiley Smiley

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Jan 23, 2017 10:54:06 PM

Grant: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Denver, CO , United States; Posts: 12586, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 21, 2002; Reply to: W8MM

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

W8MM:
RC:
Overboost? Yes. How long and when? I don't have a clue (yet). As far as I heard, the GT2 won't use VTG chargers but some sort of new(?) or improved turbo tech. Will be interesting...

Electric motor on the impeller/compressor shaft to "pre-spin" the boost during low-flow periods????

That would seem like a risky model to introduce tech that could be vulnerable to the high temperatures in that high-power application (that could see really high duty cycles on the track).

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Jan 24, 2017 1:35:57 AM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6920, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: Grant

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But Mike sounds like he is on the correct track. Some type of hybrid Turbo

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Jan 24, 2017 12:48:19 PM

W8MM: Rennteam Master; Loc: Cincinnati, OH , United States; Posts: 3993, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 8, 2003; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

Leawood911:
But Mike sounds like he is on the correct track. Some type of hybrid Turbo

Maybe an electric super/turbo-charger unit whose output plumbing is merged with and supplements the exhaust-driven turbos? Keeps the exhaust heat from conducting into the electric stuff?

I still like the idea of electric spool-up assist via common impeller/compressor/electric-motor shaft, but recognize that shaft conduction of exhaust heat is a problem that might take exotic remedies.

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Jan 24, 2017 1:14:53 PM

BjoernB: Rennteam Master; Loc: Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 4100, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 19, 2004; Reply to: W8MM

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I recall to have seen Pictures of electric turbo's - so I don't think it's a issue as Long as you have a big enough Battery capacity storage somewhere in the car. I also recall that they want to get rid of traditional starter , waterpump etc and replace it all by electrification making the engine more compact and powerfull - all naturally evolving things....

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Jan 24, 2017 2:22:03 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: BiTurbo

Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

BiTurbo:
RC:
Overboost? Yes. How long and when? I don't have a clue (yet). As far as I heard, the GT2 won't use VTG chargers but some sort of new(?) or improved turbo tech. Will be interesting...

This would certainly be a viable solution... Smiley

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