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Re: 599 GTB
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Rossi said:
I've seen high res pics of the three official pics and you can see a lot of neat details there, I think they all go together very well. I think we have a great styling for the next couple of years.
You mean these
(Found some HIGH-RES pics assman 
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It has carbon brakes as well, clearly visible in these pictures.
Re: 599 GTB
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temm said:
You mean these
It has carbon brakes as well, clearly visible in these pictures.
Yes, the three official pics so far. Biggest resolution I've seen was 3976 x 2362 and there you can see many very nice details.
I've also noticed the CCM, but as I know Ferrari, I'd guess they are an 20k option...
Re: 599 GTB
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temm said:
You mean these
It has carbon brakes as well, clearly visible in these pictures.
Yes, the three official pics so far. Biggest resolution I've seen was 3976 x 2362 and there you can see many very nice details.
Click on Attachment in the post header to view the ones I posted in full resolution, they are 3700 x 2362.
Re: 599 GTB
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Rossi said:Quote:
temm said:
You mean these
It has carbon brakes as well, clearly visible in these pictures.
Yes, the three official pics so far. Biggest resolution I've seen was 3976 x 2362 and there you can see many very nice details.
Click on Attachment in the post header to view the ones I posted in full resolution, they are 3700 x 2362.
Temm thanks!
From the second pic you can clearly see the how the rear has been heavily influence by the 355.
Re: interesting details
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svtrader1 said:I thought that too, at first. But, seeing that its equipped with ceramics, it wouldn't need it.
Ceramic brakes need ALOT of cooling. Since there is so little mass in the rotors, there is nowhere for the heat to go (not the typical heat sinking ability of massive steel rotors), except back into the pads and calipers which can boil the brake fluid (loss of braking). That's why F1 cars need to have brake ducts of a critical size (pure carbon brakes).
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svtrader1 said:I thought that too, at first. But, seeing that its equipped with ceramics, it wouldn't need it.
Ceramic brakes need ALOT of cooling. Since there is so little mass in the rotors, there is nowhere for the heat to go (not the typical heat sinking ability of massive steel rotors), except back into the pads and calipers which can boil the brake fluid (loss of braking). That's why F1 cars need to have brake ducts of a critical size (pure carbon brakes).
Gee, I always thought pure carbon brakes thrive on heat? At least thats what I read some years ago in Popular Mechanics.
Also, I thought being Ceramic, they were much more heat resistant?
Re: interesting details
Ferrari marketing must be so spooked with the reputation of the 612 Scragly-ugly that it couldn't bare to name this 5999 cc motored car a "600" GTB ( gran turismo berlinetta )! Convenient nomenclature , though , as the metal flip top version can be simply 599GTS. I can understand why " Imola " wasn't picked : sounds too much like " immolate " ( to kill or destroy by fire ) - not a wise thing for a car name .
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svtrader1 said:I thought that too, at first. But, seeing that its equipped with ceramics, it wouldn't need it.
Ceramic brakes need ALOT of cooling. Since there is so little mass in the rotors, there is nowhere for the heat to go (not the typical heat sinking ability of massive steel rotors), except back into the pads and calipers which can boil the brake fluid (loss of braking). That's why F1 cars need to have brake ducts of a critical size (pure carbon brakes).
Gee, I always thought pure carbon brakes thrive on heat? At least thats what I read some years ago in Popular Mechanics.
Also, I thought being Ceramic, they were much more heat resistant?
You are right in both both cases, but only when it comes to the brake rotors.
They need heat to hit the ideal working temperature, and being very heat resistant they can resist extreme temperarures without fading.
BUT, as Grant says, they have little mass and thus radiates alot of heat to the surroundings, the closest objects being the pads and calipers, which in turn need alot of cooling.
Jan 10, 2006 1:07:51 PM
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Not that Americans are more puritans than other nationalities, Ron, you know L. and she's not particularly into fondamentalism Christianity, but she said a lot of Christian Americans will be outraged by the rim design which is the star of Satan.
Do you remenber that Montezemolo offered an Enzo to the Pope... well i think they won't be offering a 599 to the new pope
Jan 10, 2006 1:12:36 PM
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I had the same thought about the wheels, but at least in Europe i think it won't be a problem.
I really find the wheels a work of art.
Some data of the new wheels:
front 245/40 ZR 19
rear 305/35 ZR 20
Are you shore? pretty agrssive measures for a GT ... cool!
Jan 10, 2006 1:14:52 PM
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I think this car looks fantastic in high-resolution. As Rossi said, there are so many details
And the sound - after watching the 4Car video it reminds me of a Spitfire/Mustang with the Rolls Royce Merlin engine, especially in the first driveby where he is just cruising
Temmm thanks for the fotos !!!
Jan 10, 2006 2:02:56 PM
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I think this car looks fantastic in high-resolution. As Rossi said, there are so many details
And the sound - after watching the 4Car video it reminds me of a Spitfire/Mustang with the Rolls Royce Merlin engine, especially in the first driveby where he is just cruising
Temmm thanks for the fotos !!!
You're welcome
You can clearly see the wheel/tire dimensions in the high-res pictures.
Jan 10, 2006 3:47:49 PM
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okay, so this is real. I like it and I don't.
First, what is the deal with the rear lights? Is this Ferrari not a real Ferrari- is it too new to earn the double lights?
Everyone is into retro ( see the " new " Camaro , Challenger, Miura too) - catering to those who have the fattest wallets - aging baby boomers with empty nests . Ferrari will load on the " heritage " features , I guarantee - from 275 GTB big single rear lights , " 50's " voluptuous " curves oddly juxstaposed with late 60s P3 vertical headlights to inevitably, soon to be seen 250GTO's triple hood vents ! It just doesn't sit right to have 50 years of different iconic features , each beautiful in isolation all pasted on ONE car , though. You end up with mongrels.
Re: 599 GTB
I actually like the 599. It has "Ecken und Kanten" like we say here in Germany, it is not "glattgeluscht" like the F430 which in my opinion is one of the most beautiful Ferrari on this planet but beauty easily gets boring after some time. I leave the translation to Rossi. 
In my opinion, the 599 could become a huge success for Ferrari since it looks very special. Like a mixture between the Enzo and the 575 M. I really like this car and with 620 HP, it should be a blast to drive.
In my opinion, the 599 could become a huge success for Ferrari since it looks very special. Like a mixture between the Enzo and the 575 M. I really like this car and with 620 HP, it should be a blast to drive.
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Re: 599 GTB
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rosso nuvola said:
I had the same thought about the wheels, but at least in Europe i think it won't be a problem.
I really find the wheels a work of art.
Some data of the new wheels:
front 245/40 ZR 19
rear 305/35 ZR 20
Are you shore? pretty agrssive measures for a GT ... cool!
Yep, absolutely.
Re: interesting details
Overall the reactions on here are much more favorable than on F-chat, where they are just starting to calm down after the initial shock. Good thing Ferrari hasn't gone public yet as their price would have plummeted.
I think it's great, and it is getting better each time I look at it. The rear window/buttress area is very original. I love the front end too, nice an aggressive. The 550/575 were too subtle, too refined. It is a GT, but a Ferrari GT so it should be aggressive.
I think it's great, and it is getting better each time I look at it. The rear window/buttress area is very original. I love the front end too, nice an aggressive. The 550/575 were too subtle, too refined. It is a GT, but a Ferrari GT so it should be aggressive.
Re: 599 GTB
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0two9 said:
okay, so this is real. I like it and I don't.
First, what is the deal with the rear lights? Is this Ferrari not a real Ferrari- is it too new to earn the double lights?
Everyone is into retro ( see the " new " Camaro , Challenger, Miura too) - catering to those who have the fattest wallets - aging baby boomers with empty nests . Ferrari will load on the " heritage " features , I guarantee - from 275 GTB big single rear lights , " 50's " voluptuous " curves oddly juxstaposed with late 60s P3 vertical headlights to inevitably, soon to be seen 250GTO's triple hood vents ! It just doesn't sit right to have 50 years of different iconic features , each beautiful in isolation all pasted on ONE car , though. You end up with mongrels.
I remember reading (when the 575 was released) an article with Montezemolo who said they considered triple front vents in the design on the 575 but decided against it as they were less efficient than the single intake of the 550/575.
Don't think we'll see them on future V12 ferraris - which is a shame as they looked great on the GTO.
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