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    Re: 24h Le Means 2017

     

    Toyota didn't anticipate a clutch will be needed 2 times in a row within a short time frame, so they designed theirs to last one launch and figured they had time to have it cool down again.

     

    Yes because nobody can anticipate this in a 24h race Smiley

    Good think Porsche thinks differently even on road cars: 991 Turbo S Launch Control 


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    Re: 24h Le Means 2017

    Carlos from Spain:

    They just fined Vincent Capillaire 1000€ blaming him for the Toyota blowing its clutch, ridiculous.

    Hilarious...


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    Whoopsy:
    Jeannot:

    So if not for this the Toyota would not have had to use the clutch later on?

    ok it is a shame what is happening to them but this is ridiculous.

    The Porsche mechanics who fixed #2 won the race, they deserve a nice bonus :)

     

    Toyota didn't anticipate a clutch will be needed 2 times in a row within a short time frame, so they designed theirs to last one launch and figured they had time to have it cool down again.

    Porsche had a more robust design, experience from endurance racing Smiley

    But you know the Toyota clutch will last at least 2 launches next year, just like their turbo host clamp lasted more than 24hours this year Smiley


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    I wonder if Toyota will run 4 cars next year to increase their odds of winning.Smiley


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    They will hire 5 fake marshalls to distract the opposition smiley



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    BjoernB:

    true sportsmen

    https://drivetribe.com/p/VkLjnPvYRSWQ2dHMR8q8vQ?iid=VdBBaJUAShOS6NpDAVGfaA

    SmileySmileySmiley

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    kiss


    Re: 24h Le Means 2017

    Nice, thanks for posting..


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    There is a pretty nice documentary on Le Mans 2015 on Amazon Video:

    Amazon Racing is Everything


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    Topspeed:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJRBiMUdrWE

     

    Completely Offtopic, but checking on an architecture website...I ended with this ThyssenKrupp video about a new revolutionary elevator system. I was like...this sounds familiar... The voice is the same as in all Porsche videos 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7QlAsxJP-g

     


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    He has a great voice.

    Nice elevator system kiss



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    :( that would be a terrible shame for Le Mans - they are so emblematic to this event...

    i guess now we are sure Toyota will stay!


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    Spyderidol:

    It looks like it is coming to an end :http://www.motorsport-total.com/wec/news/2017/06/moeglicher-porsche-lmp1-ausstieg-es-gibt-zahlreiche-gruende-17062704.html?utm_source=TW-MST&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=twmst-n-1024-20156_-_moeglicher-porsche-lmp1-ausstieg-es-gibt-zahlreiche-gruende

    Does anyone have this in English...Smiley


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    Re: 24h Le Means 2017

    Perhaps I will ask Walliser in person Saturday.


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    Whoopsy:

    Perhaps I will ask Walliser in person Saturday.

    Please do. Unfortunately it is likely that he will provide the "official" answer. 


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    If true, and I suspect it is, then this is indeed very ,very sad. 


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    I saw an article where Porsche is actively looking at developing a car to compete in Formula E. This would seem to be synch with the launch of the Mission E and VW corporate objective of electric cars representing 25% of their sales totals by 2025.


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    I was hoping to see Fernando Alonso racing for Porsche in Le Mans  surprise


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    Re: 24h Le Means 2017

    Carlos from Spain:

    I was hoping to see Fernando Alonso racing for Porsche in Le Mans  surprise

    Me tooSmiley


    Re: 24h Le Means 2017

    From what I had just gathered, Walliser wants to go back next year.

    But it all hinges on Toyota, whether they will give up or try again, cause if they give up then no one else races next year and the class will collapse.

    Unless of course there is a 3rd party that jumps in and races next year.

     


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    Whoopsy:

    From what I had just gathered, Walliser wants to go back next year.

    But it all hinges on Toyota, whether they will give up or try again, cause if they give up then no one else races next year and the class will collapse.

    Unless of course there is a 3rd party that jumps in and races next year.

     

    I think Toyota will be back, at least until 2019.Even if there is someone new coming, they wont be around until 2020


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    Spyderidol:
    Whoopsy:

    From what I had just gathered, Walliser wants to go back next year.

    But it all hinges on Toyota, whether they will give up or try again, cause if they give up then no one else races next year and the class will collapse.

    Unless of course there is a 3rd party that jumps in and races next year.

     

    I think Toyota will be back, at least until 2019.Even if there is someone new coming, they wont be around until 2020

    Will Porsche race the current LMP1 or build a new Car?  


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    I'm not sure Porsche will race any car in LMP1.


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    Spyderidol:

    I'm not sure Porsche will race any car in LMP1.

    I agree with you..Porsche has won the last 3 races. Not sure there is much more to be gained from running the current version of the 919. 


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    Re: 24h Le Means 2017

    If Toyota or any other manufacturer enters, Porsche will be there.


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    Nothing more to be gained from 919 (not at the cost that it will take to make it remain competitive), but the real issue is that there is nothing in the 2020 rules that make it appetizing for Porsche. They don't want cost control at the expense of hybrid development/ advances, and unfortunately the 2020 rules don't allow for further hybrid development.

    It's all very, very sad and the ACO is once again to blame.

     


    Re: 24h Le Means 2017

    Wonderbar:

    If Toyota or any other manufacturer enters, Porsche will be there.

    From your key pad  to God's ears!


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    I am afraid it is too late to save the LMP1 class. Truth is that I would love to have seen it develop, but the moment Audi pulled out, and was not replaced by Peugeot or someone else, the class seemed doomed.

    Two factory teams is in my view 2 too little, and the cost have run crazy as well, so who should jump on this one ? The fact that Toyota have tried for so long without winning, I would imagine makes the field of candidates burning billions of $$$ close to non existing.

    One thing which could have saved the class or at least extended it's life, would have been a Toyota victory in 2016 or 2017, but that is al history by now.

    Not a very postive situation, but while this is happening, I will enjoy a good LMP2 and GTE pro field wink

     


     
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