Dec 29, 2005 9:58:24 PM
Dec 29, 2005 10:52:24 PM
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KiwiCanuck said:
Hello rockhead,
Yikes! You have our sympathy.
One reason, of several I did not take a 3.8, was that the 3.6 was the older and potentially more reliable (any issues fixed?) design. I did not know then of the RMS etc issues with all versions of this 'new' water cooled engine of circa 2000.
Thanks to EXCELLENCE, and editor Pete, I became aware of the 996/7 engine issues , and have bombarded the 2 above UK mags with letters/e-mails asking why they do not TALK about this issue. Now they are --- maybe PAG will hear!
The latest edition of either 'GT-purely Porsche' or '911--Porsche World' has a letter from the English engine guru (I'm away from my mags at the office -- holidays, but I'm doing some space resaeach before the students come back) whose name is ---??---- does F1 work etc. You'l find it easily. It is on the tip of my tongue ----- Hart Hart HART!
His explanation of the design issues, why the problems still occur, assembly and hardware, gave me the shivers. It was/is apparently part of the 'cost savings' approach. His company have desgned a new tool that allows the seals to be replaced more effectively (parallel to the crank etc), as unless this IS done well, the wretched thing will expire again.And during assembly, if the guy putting your engine together makes a little mistake with that B------ seal ----and your engine is doomed to fail ---
I am really enjoying my new Porsche life (Carrera with PASM), the great driving car, the Mags, the enthusiasm, and this web. But I would sooner have paid another $5K and had the design improved for the 997. e.g. do the Turbo and GT3 engines have these issues --- I do NOT think so.
Porsche --- you have let us down --- and it MAY come back to haunt you.
I know if the new 'NSX' is anywhere close in price to that of the 2004 NSX, I will be going back to engine design etc that I can trust. Reliabilty of that NSX engine etc is extraordinary. Of course the car was more expensive, and you get what you pay for , to SOME degree. Athough for the SAME price as a Carrera, the Brits have been able to buy and NSX for the last couple of years!!
PAG--- great pity! Fix it!
Muffled Cheers
KiwiCanuck
Dec 30, 2005 5:40:02 PM
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SoCal Alan said:
So, if the RMS failed after the warranty expires, we have to pay for the repairs out of our own pocket?
Dec 30, 2005 5:59:45 PM
Dec 30, 2005 8:12:02 PM
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throt said:
Do you think this 2yr warranty should be made to 3yrs or does anyone think that this has been a well thought out ploy by P to encourage the consumer to part ex up after every 2yrs ,, could it be ? ..
throt...
Dec 30, 2005 8:20:35 PM
Dec 30, 2005 8:58:17 PM
Dec 30, 2005 9:12:16 PM
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KiwiCanuck said:
Hi' MMD,
Well it all depends on how much $/car it would cost PAG to fix it.
Many of us do not want engines pulled out, with the attendent fuss/dealer-ship 'damage'-scratches/errors in the re-installation/ uncertainty on reliability/lower resale as the 'word' spreads/ loss of 911 prestige.
What we would like to know is this: what % of 997/987 are having RMS or similar occuring now? Is it better than in the last few years of the 996 (3.6L)?
On the cold logic. It seems that PAG AGREES with you, and just fixes them -----
KiwiCanuck
Dec 30, 2005 9:22:22 PM
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KiwiCanuck said:
Well it all depends on how much $/car it would cost PAG to fix it.
Dec 30, 2005 9:22:33 PM
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KiwiCanuck said:
Many of us do not want engines pulled out, with the attendent fuss/dealer-ship 'damage'-scratches/errors in the re-installation/ uncertainty on reliability/lower resale as the 'word' spreads/ loss of 911 prestige.
KiwiCanuck
Dec 30, 2005 9:48:44 PM
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mateoche said:
Does anyone know what the going rates at US dealers for an RMS replacement that's out of warranty on the 996? And how much would yours have been if it wasn't under warrant on your 997. thx.
I remember someone saying us$2000.
Dec 30, 2005 10:24:43 PM
Dec 31, 2005 12:18:09 AM
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mateoche said:
Does anyone know what the going rates at US dealers for an RMS replacement that's out of warranty on the 996? And how much would yours have been if it wasn't under warrant on your 997. thx.
Dec 31, 2005 12:44:12 AM
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Carlos from Spain said:
if the concentricity of the crankshaft bore is out tolerance, then you need a new engine which I believe is around 6k in the carrera plus labour.
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Carlos from Spain said:
if the concentricity of the crankshaft bore is out tolerance, then you need a new engine which I believe is around 6k in the carrera plus labour.
Really, only $6k? That's a bargain for the engine when you consider how much other parts of the car cost! X51 Powerkit costs more than double the cost of a new motor for just 26hp? I know a GT3 motor costs around $40k...
Dec 31, 2005 10:45:22 AM
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Grant said:
Really, only $6k? That's a bargain for the engine when you consider how much other parts of the car cost! X51 Powerkit costs more than double the cost of a new motor for just 26hp?
I know a GT3 motor costs around $40k...
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