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nberry said:
Even the diehard porschephiles if give a chance to take the keys to either a GT2, GT3RS or a 430 would take the 430.
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Martin Tyler said:
1:11.8 --- 130.362 km/h - Lamborghini Gallardo (sport auto 12/03)
Of all the times I've seen posted this is the one that is the most difficult for me to believe. Several hundred pounds heavier and slower accelerating than a 430, saddled with AWD, and a second faster? Something very wrong here. And I must say I have a problem comparing times from different dates at the same track. Anyone who competes has seen the effects of repaving. At my home track (Infineon/Sears Point) when the track was repaved last year, times came down 2 or 3 seconds with no other changes. Laguna Seca has become much faster with the changes to the track for the Moto GP boys, and Thunderhill is faster, too, this year than it was several years ago. If it's not on the same day, take it with a grain of salt.
Gary
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nberry said:
Even the diehard porschephiles if give a chance to take the keys to either a GT2, GT3RS or a 430 would take the 430.
Good joke!
Compared to the F430 the GT2 is much quicker, more expensive and MORE EXCLUSIVE This last aspect should even convince you...
Nov 19, 2005 5:18:45 PM
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nberry said:
Even the diehard porschephiles if give a chance to take the keys to either a GT2, GT3RS or a 430 would take the 430.
Good joke!
Compared to the F430 the GT2 is much quicker, more expensive and MORE EXCLUSIVE This last aspect should even convince you...
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nberry said:
Even the diehard porschephiles if give a chance to take the keys to either a GT2, GT3RS or a 430 would take the 430.
Good joke!
Compared to the F430 the GT2 is much quicker, more expensive and MORE EXCLUSIVE This last aspect should even convince you...
You are absolutely right! The GT2's are in such demand that most have ONLY lost $60,000 from a MSRP of $190,000. However, there may be good news for the GT2. It may be exceeded in depreciation by the CGT in the near future. Isn't wonderful to own a Porsche?
BTW, so that I can gauge your intelligence, which car would you choose; the 430 or GT2?
Nov 19, 2005 5:49:16 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:
Oh yeah? well the GT2 is not bright red, doesn't have 6 dozen brand logos all over the inside and out of the car, and is not as that attention grabing to the eye!! so there! (I'm being sarcastic)
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RC said:
Nick, if I would live in your area, you'd be my lawyer of choice, honestly. You have a way of telling people that black is actually white.
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RC said:
Nick, if I would live in your area, you'd be my lawyer of choice, honestly. You have a way of telling people that black is actually white.
RC, have you thought that through?
Telling people that black is white is one thing.
You'd want a lawyer who was capable of CONVINCING people that black is white!
Nov 19, 2005 9:22:57 PM
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Nick, if I would live in your area, you'd be my lawyer of choice, honestly. You have a way of telling people that black is actually white.
RC, have you thought that through?
Telling people that black is white is one thing.
You'd want a lawyer who was capable of CONVINCING people that black is white!
Nov 20, 2005 1:11:27 AM
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Corsa tyres from the CS won't fit the F430 and AFAIK the Corsa currently isn't available in the F430's dimension.
I think that is incorrect. The wheel and tire size is the same on the 430 and the CS so the CS Corsas should fit with no problem. In fact I plan to order a set for myself.
Gary
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nberry said:
Even the diehard porschephiles if give a chance to take the keys to either a GT2, GT3RS or a 430 would take the 430.
Good joke!
Compared to the F430 the GT2 is much quicker, more expensive and MORE EXCLUSIVE This last aspect should even convince you...
You are absolutely right! The GT2's are in such demand that most have ONLY lost $60,000 from a MSRP of $190,000. However, there may be good news for the GT2. It may be exceeded in depreciation by the CGT in the near future. Isn't wonderful to own a Porsche?
BTW, so that I can gauge your intelligence, which car would you choose; the 430 or GT2?
Nov 20, 2005 1:21:21 PM
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You are absolutely right! The GT2's are in such demand that most have ONLY lost $60,000 from a MSRP of $190,000.
Wow that's nearly as much as you lose on a V12 Ferrari the second you leave the showroom. (in the UK anyway)
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You are absolutely right! The GT2's are in such demand that most have ONLY lost $60,000 from a MSRP of $190,000.
Wow that's nearly as much as you lose on a V12 Ferrari the second you leave the showroom. (in the UK anyway)
I wonder why Nick never mentions that
Quite ironic, considering that the V12 are the true Ferraris
Nov 21, 2005 1:44:29 AM
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RC you should know me well enough to know that these numbers are absolutely meaningless to me. Because the times are so close and there are many variables that affect the times their only value is for forum discussion like this one.
Now if the times were one minute apart like the Radical over the CGT on the NBR then I would say that is noteworthy.
BTW the GT2 and GT3RS are designed to be track cars. One would expect excellent times. But who in their right mind would take one of those cars over a Ferrari 430? Even the diehard porschephiles if give a chance to take the keys to either a GT2, GT3RS or a 430 would take the 430.
Nov 21, 2005 10:04:44 AM
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RC you should know me well enough to know that these numbers are absolutely meaningless to me. Because the times are so close and there are many variables that affect the times their only value is for forum discussion like this one.
Now if the times were one minute apart like the Radical over the CGT on the NBR then I would say that is noteworthy.
BTW the GT2 and GT3RS are designed to be track cars. One would expect excellent times. But who in their right mind would take one of those cars over a Ferrari 430? Even the diehard porschephiles if give a chance to take the keys to either a GT2, GT3RS or a 430 would take the 430.
If you don't care about numbers, then why did you take the time to post them on this site with the Ferrari at the top? Feeling insecure about your $200K purchase?
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The Hawk said:
Are you sure that the 430 had PZero Corsa? With this tires tha car has more understeer than with PZero Rosso
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JimFlat6 said:
The 360 was slower than a 996
The 430 is slower than a 997
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Cookie Monster said:
IMO as we don't know if the driver is the same, what was the track temperature, what was the air temp, level of tyre wear etc, etc, we can't compare these cars.Race the two cars the same day with the same tyres, and i'll say:"ok, this one is faster", but in this case, all we see is that all these cars do very well on the track.
Nov 22, 2005 8:17:55 AM
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tdf360 said: The 360 is more than a match for the 997, to say nothing of the 430, which is in another league entirely.