Oct 19, 2005 3:00:12 PM
- easy_rider911
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If Bugatti Veyron has DSG, why not 997TT ?
Seems to me like Porsche and VW might be collaborating on this one...
Oct 19, 2005 3:00:12 PM
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Oct 19, 2005 4:37:01 PM
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easy_rider911 said:
I feel sorry for them. Just because they developed a heart problem, doesn't mean they shouldn't enjoy driving. They shouldn't be forced to drive an automatic. That would take away a lot of the driving pleasure and interaction.
Oct 19, 2005 6:21:30 PM
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Rapture said:
I would take a DSG, in fact I'll probably wait to buy a 911 until they produce one with a DSG (like) trans. I like driving a manual transmission car, it would just be nice to be able to throw it in "auto" mode sometimes and not have to pay a penalty in shift speed, or overall performance.
I'm kind of suprised that a manufacturer has not produced a DSG equipped car that has a shifter more like a manual transmission car. You would think this would feel more natural to those that have driven sticks all of their lives, just no pesky clutch.
Oct 19, 2005 6:26:26 PM
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69bossnine said:Quote:
Rapture said:
I would take a DSG, in fact I'll probably wait to buy a 911 until they produce one with a DSG (like) trans. I like driving a manual transmission car, it would just be nice to be able to throw it in "auto" mode sometimes and not have to pay a penalty in shift speed, or overall performance.
I'm kind of suprised that a manufacturer has not produced a DSG equipped car that has a shifter more like a manual transmission car. You would think this would feel more natural to those that have driven sticks all of their lives, just no pesky clutch.
Never, ever, in my 38-plus years, have I even considered a clutch to be "pesky". How lazy is this society getting to be?? Shifting is like breathing, something you never consider as effort...... Or is it just me?
Leave the DSG's to the pinky-waggers and the F1 wannabe's and the techno-obsessed geeks, I'm a manual guy for life!!!
Oct 19, 2005 7:35:18 PM
Oct 19, 2005 10:10:01 PM
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69bossnine said:Quote:
Rapture said:
I would take a DSG, in fact I'll probably wait to buy a 911 until they produce one with a DSG (like) trans. I like driving a manual transmission car, it would just be nice to be able to throw it in "auto" mode sometimes and not have to pay a penalty in shift speed, or overall performance.
I'm kind of suprised that a manufacturer has not produced a DSG equipped car that has a shifter more like a manual transmission car. You would think this would feel more natural to those that have driven sticks all of their lives, just no pesky clutch.
Never, ever, in my 38-plus years, have I even considered a clutch to be "pesky". How lazy is this society getting to be?? Shifting is like breathing, something you never consider as effort...... Or is it just me?
Leave the DSG's to the pinky-waggers and the F1 wannabe's and the techno-obsessed geeks, I'm a manual guy for life!!!
Oct 20, 2005 12:50:35 AM
Quote:They have one in the GT3 Cup cars. While DSG has advantages in a race car, it takes the sport out of a sports car.
easy_rider911 said:
This week's Autocar Magazine includes an article where they test drive the new Veyron. It has 1000 bhp. They also said that the Veyron will have DSG. If VW can make a DSG that can handle that much power and torque, then why can't Porsche develop one for the 997 range?Seems to me like Porsche and VW might be collaborating on this one...
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madadd said:
Is the DSG gearbox not excessively heavy? Which partially removes some of its performance advantages?
Oct 20, 2005 1:16:31 PM
Oct 20, 2005 1:43:01 PM
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I have no plans to buy a robot to have sex with my wife (I'm sure the robot could do it more "efficiently" and maybe even faster...., and certainly would represent technological progress..)
Oct 20, 2005 1:43:44 PM
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69bossnine said:
If you're not in a money-race, then "fun", to me, is the TOP reason to own a Porsche. The fact that they are practical, refined, and all that good stuff, just enhances the car, and leaves you to be able to enjoy the fun yet even more.
I have no plans to buy a robot to have sex with my wife (I'm sure the robot could do it more "efficiently" and maybe even faster...., and certainly would represent technological progress..)
I have no plans to cancel my snow ski vacation in favor of a "virtual reality" computer game.
I have no plans to quit drinking beer, and opting for a much faster and more efficient pill to get me a good buzz.
And I have no plans to own a DSG equipped car.
One of the most visceral parts of driving a performance car, is being the solitary link between the horsepower and the road.
It's like holding a bat, and striking a ball, and feeling the power all through your body, and having the satisfaction of having made a sweet shot. DSG is like strapping a mechanism to your chest that holds a bat, and you press a button to swing it, and it nails the ball perfectly every time. More efficient, more modern, technologically superior, and absolutely lame if you're out on the field to have fun and test your skills.
I understand progress and technology, but there's a point where it REPLACES experience, rather than enhancing it. Technology should enhance and improve the overall experience. Otherwise, it's just gee-gaw stuff for folks who get a woody over such things.