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Re: Carrera GT - hurry up with your order if you want one!
I wonder how many are sold to customers vs. sold to dealers who are looking for customers. I think it looks to be great car, but I have seen several available from dealers here in the USA at sticker. On the other hand, the SLR, which I actually like less, is impossible to get even though there will be 3500 of them, at least. My dealer who sells a lot of cars will be allocated 2 over the first 4 years. The USA is getting only 100 cars a year from the 500 annual production. Go figure!
Re: Carrera GT - hurry up with your order if you want one!
how certain is that number RC?
btw, where in germany are you? we're going to that CGT ride 3/12 but will be in munich and stuttgart and a couple other places over the week. after missing you in fla, it would be great to say hello.
btw, where in germany are you? we're going to that CGT ride 3/12 but will be in munich and stuttgart and a couple other places over the week. after missing you in fla, it would be great to say hello.
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how certain is that number RC?
1500 is the same number that has been heard directly from the lips of PAG/PCNA management since Geneva (March, 2003). It's also the same time that the 390,000 Euros/US$440,000 price was announced as firm.
Nothing has changed since then, AFAIK.
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I wonder how many are sold to customers vs. sold to dealers who are looking for customers.
My dealer has sold all of his allocation to real customers, except one (as of last week). He said that they will place that order on spec if it is not committed to a customer by the time the window closes for orders. He is very confident he will sell it for sticker to someone -- sooner or later.
It was difficult for Porsche to fan the flames for this car while simultaneously introducing the Cayenne. Two years ago, my dealer told me that we would hear NOTHING about the CGT from Porsche while the Cayenne was being launched. Because Porsche would not dilute the attention given to the only introduction PR this new SUV would ever get. First impressions are invaluable.
The long period of silence between the Paris 2000 concept car and the Geneva 2003 official introduction, along with the currency-rate-induced price shock to US hopefuls, caused some queasy feelings. If one is used to thinking in terms of 2x a GT2 for a run of 1000 cars, then adjusting to 3x a GT2 for 1500 takes some time.
I remember talking to very many people at the Geneva CGT introduction event that were in a state of shock about the new price. There was quite a deal of gloom and doom going around. It is still felt on this board today.
By chance, I had dinner the other night with a friend who was worrying about the price when we had talked at Geneva. I hadn't seen him since then. I was somewhat surprised when told me he had a CGT on order with a mid-2004 build date. He entertained us by retelling his experiences at the Leipzig ride-around. Evidently, he got over his price-shock.
Remember, almost nobody outside of Porsche knows what the CGT can really do. As soon as a few magazines run a road test on the Carrera GT, the dropping jaws of the mass of motor heads will drive up the "got-to-have" feelings to a point where the car will sell out just fine. Nordschleife-lap-time-envy sells cars. Who wouldn't prefer a car that out-runs the Enzo, is more likely to be obtainable than an Enzo, and the street cost is half or a third of an Enzo?
If Porsche has already sold 1300 of the 1500 to be built, they may feel that additional PR expenses are not justified. The press drives are just beginning, and will be in print in a few months. I have the feeling that all 1500 will be gone before the end of this year, for sure.
I'm not worried about unsold inventory in the least.
Oct 16, 2003 3:28:03 PM
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My dealer has sold all of his allocation to real customers, except one (as of last week). He said that they will place that order on spec if it is not committed to a customer by the time the window closes for orders. He is very confident he will sell it for sticker to someone -- sooner or later.
W8MM,
Have you ordered one as well? I know one of the guys that have ordered one. I can't wait to see it in person..
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RR4; If you had any idea what it takes to build these Carbon
Fibre super cars; totally by hand; by a small group of craftsman; you might appreciate why it takes so long. I've seen the work stations to assemble the CGT; and I've seen the cars in all stages of assembly.... It's not building a Toyota ! The closest thing is building a protoype racecar !
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Fibre super cars; totally by hand; by a small group of craftsman; you might appreciate why it takes so long. I've seen the work stations to assemble the CGT; and I've seen the cars in all stages of assembly.... It's not building a Toyota ! The closest thing is building a protoype racecar !
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Oct 17, 2003 5:46:26 PM
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W8MM,
I am sorry as well for coming off as a Troll Mr Valentine,
No harm, no foul..hahah nah, I am not a Troll. I understand that people pop in out of no where and post a bunch of poo from time to time and waiste everyones time.. that was not my intent.
I simply wasn't aware of another being ordered in the area..
I think It's GREAT that you plan to drive car.. I am friends with J.D.. I know he had ordered one of the CGT's as well.
I like the color choice you have gone with.
I wonder If I have crossed paths with you before? have you gone to any of the Taj Kruzer events?
Eric
I am sorry as well for coming off as a Troll Mr Valentine,
No harm, no foul..hahah nah, I am not a Troll. I understand that people pop in out of no where and post a bunch of poo from time to time and waiste everyones time.. that was not my intent.
I simply wasn't aware of another being ordered in the area..
I think It's GREAT that you plan to drive car.. I am friends with J.D.. I know he had ordered one of the CGT's as well.
I like the color choice you have gone with.
I wonder If I have crossed paths with you before? have you gone to any of the Taj Kruzer events?
Eric
Oct 17, 2003 6:20:40 PM
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W8MM,
No harm, no foul..hahah nah, I am not a Troll.
I simply wasn't aware of another being ordered in the area..
I think It's GREAT that you plan to drive car.. I am friends with J.D.. I know he had ordered one of the CGT's as well.
I like the color choice you have gone with.
I wonder If I have crossed paths with you before? have you gone to any of the Taj Kruzer events?
Eric
I've been an OVR PCA member for 20+ years, but I haven't attended many events since the advent of kids --> now turned teen-aged.
Back in my g.Analyst days, I was the chalk-talk instructor for OVR DE events at Mid-Ohio. I once calculated that I had driven in excess of 2500 laps there over a period of many years. Maybe we crossed paths there?
Did J.D. order his car from Bruce in Cincy or White-Allen? I know of two more CGT orders in Cincinnati besides mine -- but they're top secret
Re: Carrera GT - hurry up with your order if you want one!
Good question. Porsche Cars N.A. will probably award a few regional repair facilities ( ala Audi A8 ) that will repair the cars
with original components, and factory procedures. It still will be a car that you won't want to hurt; if you can help it !
Revvv
with original components, and factory procedures. It still will be a car that you won't want to hurt; if you can help it !
Revvv
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