Oct 2, 2005 3:01:46 PM
- Silver Bullet
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CDN vs US Pricing
$25,000!!!!!
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Anybody have any experience with buying their 911 in the US and bringing it back to Canada?
Oct 2, 2005 3:01:46 PM
Oct 2, 2005 5:28:52 PM
Oct 2, 2005 5:35:51 PM
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PbPedis said:
I considered this, but was told that Porsche is considering voiding warranty in Canada on US cars. I'd look into this before proceeding further. Otherwise, it makes perfect sense to do this. Porsche is not alone in this though. When I was considering a C6 Z06, I noted that GM does the same thing. An equivalent car imported from the US would save about $17K if I recall correctly. With GM, there is no warranty for 6 months if you go that route, but it would only be a minor hassle for me to drive across the border.
Oct 2, 2005 6:20:00 PM
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Silver Bullet said:
Based upon numbers from the "Build Your Own Porsche" part of the Porsche NA website, I just realized that if you convert the US MSRP for a C2 or C2S into CDN dollars, that number is over $25,000 less than the CDN MSRP.
$25,000!!!!!
Comments?
Anybody have any experience with buying their 911 in the US and bringing it back to Canada?
Oct 2, 2005 9:28:45 PM
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SoCal Alan said:Quote:
PbPedis said:
I considered this, but was told that Porsche is considering voiding warranty in Canada on US cars. I'd look into this before proceeding further. Otherwise, it makes perfect sense to do this. Porsche is not alone in this though. When I was considering a C6 Z06, I noted that GM does the same thing. An equivalent car imported from the US would save about $17K if I recall correctly. With GM, there is no warranty for 6 months if you go that route, but it would only be a minor hassle for me to drive across the border.
If it's a warranty issue, why can't you just bring it back to the US dealer to resolve, when/if that time comes?
Oct 3, 2005 3:35:55 AM
Oct 3, 2005 4:18:30 AM
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andre may said:
Some dealers have actually refused to sell me a new 05 987 even though PCNA told me its not a problem.
This seems to be an individual dealer issue but they may be catching on to the idea that more of us are going to be purchasing in the US and bringing cars back, esp with the exchange rate the way it is.
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andre may said:
Some dealers have actually refused to sell me a new 05 987 even though PCNA told me its not a problem.
This seems to be an individual dealer issue but they may be catching on to the idea that more of us are going to be purchasing in the US and bringing cars back, esp with the exchange rate the way it is.
Oct 3, 2005 4:54:47 PM
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Al Pettee said:Quote:
Silver Bullet said:
Based upon numbers from the "Build Your Own Porsche" part of the Porsche NA website, I just realized that if you convert the US MSRP for a C2 or C2S into CDN dollars, that number is over $25,000 less than the CDN MSRP.
$25,000!!!!!
Comments?
Anybody have any experience with buying their 911 in the US and bringing it back to Canada?
My local P dealer said for the Cayenne (where there is a huge market for resale in other countries), that P has strict rules re. out-of-country purchases. That issue might impact me if I purchase an AM (DB9 or AMV8), since my geographically closest dealer is in Toronto, Ontario (Canada) just on the other side of Lake Ontario. The next closest dealers are in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania or New York City (both 5-6 hours away by car), or I could go to Naples, Florida, where I frequent in winter and where I plan to go this January for test drives.
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TheOldMan said:
The price difference between Canada and the US is becoming outrageous for Porsche products. Most of the other car manufacturers have adjusted prices in a manner which makes the differences between the US and Canadian cars more equivalent. Porsche is maintaining the large differential, probably because Canadians are still buying the product. 2005 997s were sold out in the Montreal market by the end of March. With the supply constrained and the demand still strong, they have little incentive to lower prices.
Porsche will transfer the warranty from a US car to Canada if the car is transferred to the Canadian market in a legitamate fashion. If for example you purschased a Porsche in the US and moved to Canada 1 year later, they will transfer the warranty without an issue. They probably will have a problem though if you purchased it in Detroit and live in southern ontario. You can call the Porsche customer service line and ask them the question. They will respond to the question.
In the Montreal market, the standard purchase agreement for automobiles strictly prohibits the purchase of a car for export to another market. I am not sure of the consequence, but the car manufactures probably can cancel the warranty based upon the breaching of the sales agreement. US sales agreements may or may not be different.
As a current owner of a a Canadian purchased 997S, I can not say that I would like to see the prices lowered. If Porsche were to lower the selling price for 2006 model year cars, it would destroy the resale value of my car. The same goes for every other late model Porsche in Canada. If Porsche were to bring US and Canadian cars into price allignment, a lot of owers and leasing companies would take a bath on the value of the car at trade in time. There would be some winners, but a lot of people would lose out, creating a 'brand' value problem long term.
If it makes you feel any better, we still pay a little bit less than our friends in the UK!
Oct 3, 2005 11:44:55 PM
Oct 4, 2005 5:02:51 AM
Oct 5, 2005 2:14:38 AM
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Targa Tim said:
I just bought a slightly used, highly optioned 997S from Chicago. I found a local high end car dealer to help import the car into Canada for me. The total money saved is close to CAN $40000. I spoke with the local Porsche dealer whom I know very well (bought two new Porsches from them). They said no warranty problem as the warranty is provided by PCNA (Porsche Cars North America) and it covers both Canada and USA.
Oct 5, 2005 3:59:35 AM
Oct 6, 2005 12:48:51 AM
Oct 6, 2005 1:05:55 AM
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Targa Tim said:
I bought the car from foxvalleymotors (a lambo dealer). The 997S is cobalt blue with options similar to the launch car, including PCCB. It was lightly used with less than 2000 miles, in service date May 2005, clean carfax. I do not need to pay any US taxes. The fee that I pay includes:
- the actual car price at foxvalleymotors
- freight and PDI
- a 6.2 % import tax (to Canada Customs)
- the usual 17 % sale tax (to Canada Customs)
- US $2000 transportation fee (to ship car from Chicago to Vancouver)
- CAN $2000 broker fee payable to the high end car dealers that help me import the car, get the title, bring to local Porsche service center for inspection, all the paperworks, etc.
- some misc. documentation fees
The MRSP of this 997S was US 103K, the asking price at foxvalleymotors was US 92.9K, I negotiate it down to US 87.8K
The total price I pay to this Canadian dealer to buy the car from him is CAN $135K
If I order a brand new car with same spec., the new car price will be CAN $175K
There is the cost saving of CAN $40K, and yes, mine is a slightly used one, but still a significant saving.
Daytime driving light is not a problem as Porsche service tech. can just use the OBDII to program the light to work without the need for wiring.
My brother imported a 2001 996TT few months ago and need to pay CAN $600 for wiring of the daytime driving light.
Hope the above information helps.
Oct 6, 2005 2:01:02 PM
Oct 6, 2005 2:50:55 PM
Oct 6, 2005 8:11:04 PM
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Targa Tim said:
PLYRS3,
Good for you for doing the importation yourself. Maybe it is different doing it in Ontario. My car sat at the border for few days waiting for the title. Then there is inspection and activation of daytime lights by an appointment at Porsche dealer. Then there is emission inspection, etc.
SB,
yes, I have to pay the usual 17% sale tax plus the extra 6.1% import tax. Like when you buy a preowned car at any dealer, you have to pay 17%. Only if you buy from someone personally, then you can save GST. Again maybe it is different in Ontario.
Oct 6, 2005 9:06:35 PM