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Ok guys, I have a 996tt and love it, but have always wanted a 360. Anyone out there owned both? What can you add to my decision making. I do like to drive my cars, I am not one of those car owners that just let the car sit. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
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pete r said:
Ok guys, I have a 996tt and love it, but have always wanted a 360. Anyone out there owned both? What can you add to my decision making. I do like to drive my cars, I am not one of those car owners that just let the car sit. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
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I laugh when people post that the TT is a better daily driver.
If you had the chance to drive Ferraris and Porsches on unlimited roads on a daily basis you would discontinue laughing...
Daily driving to me is using the car for most mundane drivng chores. It has nothing to do with Porsche vs.Ferrari. Why would you want to drive a TT to work?
If you want power, comfort and elegance, the new M5 is a great choice. Or to keep it in the Porsche family and make you happy, the Cayenne or its new sedan in 2008.
Sorry, the TT though a great performer is a bore to drive and is exciting as watching grass grow. Who would want to take that out for a weekend of excitement and passion?
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nberry, since you have owned Ferrari's how dependable has your 360 been?
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nberry, since you have owned Ferrari's how dependable has your 360 been?
My 360's have been dependable. The only time I have had the car's serviced is when it was required.
The 430 is even better. The quality of the workmanship is terrific.
However, in ordering my 430 Spider, I am told I must buy the extended warranty (an additional one year 3-4 yrs) for $5900 and the navigation system for a discounted price of $600.00. I do not want either but must take it. I suspect they got stuck with a certain number of Becker nav, systems and are unloading them on the 430 buyers. I do not understand the mandatory extended warranty.
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Sorry, the TT though a great performer is a bore to drive and is exciting as watching grass grow.
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That is kinda BS for them to make it mandatory for you to buy an extended warranty. Do you still have the 360? Or did you sell it when you got the 430? How much did you pay for the 430? What was the sticker price on that? Should just suck it up and buy a 430.
Quote:The only problem is you do not really get to drive it much , if you want to put 10 or 20 thousand miles on the car and really use it then it will be hard to get those prices right .
When I sell it, my price (which I will get) will be over MSRP. It does not cost me one cent to drive a new Ferrari.
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pete r said:
Ok guys, I have a 996tt and love it, but have always wanted a 360. Anyone out there owned both? What can you add to my decision making. I do like to drive my cars, I am not one of those car owners that just let the car sit. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
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That is kinda BS for them to make it mandatory for you to buy an extended warranty. Do you still have the 360? Or did you sell it when you got the 430? How much did you pay for the 430? What was the sticker price on that? Should just suck it up and buy a 430.
Pete I have paid MSRP on all my 360's. Additionally after driving them for several thousand miles, I have turned around and sold them above MSRP. I took delivery of a 430 in May and recently sold it for a considerable premium over MSRP. My reason for selling is because I ordered a Spider which I expect delivery on in the very near future.
The Spider I will keep for at least a year. When I sell it, my price (which I will get) will be over MSRP. It does not cost me one cent to drive a new Ferrari.
BTW, the only saving grace on the extended warranty is it does increase the value of the car on resale. To what degree is somewhat uncertain.
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That is kinda BS for them to make it mandatory for you to buy an extended warranty. Do you still have the 360? Or did you sell it when you got the 430? How much did you pay for the 430? What was the sticker price on that? Should just suck it up and buy a 430.
Pete I have paid MSRP on all my 360's. Additionally after driving them for several thousand miles, I have turned around and sold them above MSRP. I took delivery of a 430 in May and recently sold it for a considerable premium over MSRP. My reason for selling is because I ordered a Spider which I expect delivery on in the very near future.
The Spider I will keep for at least a year. When I sell it, my price (which I will get) will be over MSRP. It does not cost me one cent to drive a new Ferrari.
BTW, the only saving grace on the extended warranty is it does increase the value of the car on resale. To what degree is somewhat uncertain.
Nick, are you a Ferrari lover, or a (pure) money lover ??
Ferrari should NEVER sell you one more car IMO !! you don't deserve one !
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I laugh when people post that the TT is a better daily driver.
If you had the chance to drive Ferraris and Porsches on unlimited roads on a daily basis you would discontinue laughing...
Daily driving to me is using the car for most mundane drivng chores. It has nothing to do with Porsche vs.Ferrari. Why would you want to drive a TT to work?
If you want power, comfort and elegance, the new M5 is a great choice. Or to keep it in the Porsche family and make you happy, the Cayenne or its new sedan in 2008.
Sorry, the TT though a great performer is a bore to drive and is exciting as watching grass grow. Who would want to take that out for a weekend of excitement and passion?
I understand where you are coming from. In the US the TT might indeed be a little bit boring as compared to a 430. The reason is that much of the TT's fascination unveils at higher speeds and longer distances only.
This week I did about 2000km with my TT (pretty fast km indeed). The car is unbeatable. It is pure fun and efficiency. Based on my experience (I have been driving Ferrari for nearly 30.000 mls so far) the driving pleasure is not any higher in a 430.
Only three years ago I would not have believed it either...
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Pete I have paid MSRP on all my 360's. Additionally after driving them for several thousand miles, I have turned around and sold them above MSRP.
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Thanks for all of the feedback. I have been tracking some of the 430 and what they are selling for in the US and even used ones are comanding very high prices in the mid to high 200K. There was a post on this board a week or so ago and the gentleman posted the sticker of his new 430 and he said he got it for MSRP. Do I need to know someone in the buisness to get one for MSRP? Because if I can get a new "off the showroom" floor for 200k or so verses used at 50+ K more I would like to get one no one has ever driven.
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Thanks for all of the feedback. I have been tracking some of the 430 and what they are selling for in the US and even used ones are comanding very high prices in the mid to high 200K. There was a post on this board a week or so ago and the gentleman posted the sticker of his new 430 and he said he got it for MSRP. Do I need to know someone in the buisness to get one for MSRP? Because if I can get a new "off the showroom" floor for 200k or so verses used at 50+ K more I would like to get one no one has ever driven.
Pete you need a relationship with a Ferari dealer. Otherwise you will never see the day when you buy a new one at MSRP. My understanding is in the US the 430 is sold out for the entire production whatever that may be 5-7years?
Ocean I sold a 360 Spider with 15,000 miles above MSRP. Also, why would i want to keep a car any longer?
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Ocean I sold a 360 Spider with 15,000 miles above MSRP. Also, why would i want to keep a car any longer?
Oct 1, 2005 7:50:46 PM
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Don't they pay TAXES on cars in THE MIGHTY US, which you ALWAYS LOOSE when selling ?????
We pay 21% + 5000 Euro BIV (Tax to put the car "In Traffic") !!!!!
Wasn't Nick THE GREAT FERRARI MAN, NOW it's very easy to understand WHY, they don't cost him ONE PENNY, instead he is MAKING MONEY in driving Ferrari's, WHAT A LUCKY BASTARD !!!!!
For me it's VERY CLEAR, if they would cost him big time, like they do here in Europe, he wouldn't drive ONE !!!!!
IMHO that's HOW FAR his FERRARI LOVE goes, playing "The Big Spender" WITHOUT spending ANY !!!!!
CONGRATS Man, you are one LUCKY GUY !!!!!
Oct 1, 2005 8:47:30 PM