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    Sep 27, 2005 1:14:14 PM

    easy_rider911
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    Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Britain's Best Driver's Car 2005 is....911 Carrera S (NB: it had -20mm sports suspension and PCCB)

    They compared it to 19 other cars (from various categories) around Rockingham test track and also on the road. Max 100 points.

    Interesting read...

    Top Ten were:

    1st 89 pts Porsche 911 Carrera S
    2nd 84 pts Noble M400
    3rd 80 pts Ford GT
    4th 79 pts Ferrari F430
    5th 78 pts Aston Martin V8 Vantage
    6th= 76 pts Nissan Nismo 350Z
    6th= 76 pts BMW M5
    8th 75 pts Porsche Boxster S
    9th 72 pts Lotus Exige 240R
    10th 71 pts Mitsubishi Evo IX

    Sep 27, 2005 1:31:32 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Awesome news ..

    throt..

    Sep 27, 2005 1:32:52 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    hmmm...where's the Corvette?

    Sep 27, 2005 2:47:45 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Nissan 350Z????

    Sep 27, 2005 2:52:15 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    How could the 430 be so far down .

    Sep 27, 2005 4:16:45 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Quote:
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    Nissan 350Z????



    You have to drive and you'll know... For that price nothing can beat it

    Sep 27, 2005 4:21:59 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

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    Quote:
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    Nissan 350Z????



    You have to drive and you'll know... For that price nothing can beat it



    Especially because its the Nismo version, although i wonder if it was the "S" or "R" tune

    Sep 27, 2005 5:05:38 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Not the standard 350Z. This was a Nismo version. Much much better.

    Sep 27, 2005 5:08:12 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Corvette C6 was in 17th place with 56 points.
    Mercedes CLS55 AMG was 16th with 60 points.

    Sep 27, 2005 5:12:28 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Way to go 911.....again.
    I wasn't impressed at all with the standard 350Z, so the Nismo version must be much better.
    I disagree with the placement of the 430.

    Sep 27, 2005 5:12:56 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Guys, I'll see if I can scan the article. There are lap times in both wet and dry conditions for each car.

    Porsche 911 Carrera S, Lotus Exige 240R, Corvette C6 all has the identical wet lap time of 94.7 seconds. The only wet lap time lower than this was Ford Gt at 93.6 seconds.

    The fastest dry lap time was Noble M400 at 76.6 secs. Porsche 911 Carrera S was 81.4 secs. Ford GT was 80.7 secs. Ferrari F430 was 81.1 secs in dry but a terrible 101.5 in the wet. AMV8 was 100.0 in wet and 84.4 in dry.

    Sep 27, 2005 5:55:37 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Quote:
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    Nissan 350Z????



    NISSAN 350Z???!?!?!

    Sep 28, 2005 3:20:34 AM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    very nice placement!

    Sep 28, 2005 3:42:00 AM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    It might include a cost factor? That would explain the placement of the F430.

    Also - lapping in the wet is not that useful in my opinion. Nice to know the car can handle in the rain, but is pushing it necessary? Is that meaningful metric to use to rate a sportscar? Probably about as useful as comparing lap times in reverse gear. Junk data.

    Sep 28, 2005 4:55:02 AM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Boxster S 8th??

    WTF?
    isnt it the all time slalom champion?

    Sep 28, 2005 1:17:38 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

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    Boxster S 8th??

    WTF?
    isnt it the all time slalom champion?



    Seriously, if it was time slalom I strongly doubt the Aston Martin of all cars would place higher than a Boxster S...

    Sep 28, 2005 5:49:49 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Boxster S is plenty cheaper than all the cars above and no doubt not far behind in lap times!

    Still want a 997s but gotta be happy with my baby boxster!

    Sep 28, 2005 8:04:26 PM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    Quote:
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    Quote:
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    Boxster S 8th??

    WTF?
    isnt it the all time slalom champion?



    Seriously, if it was time slalom I strongly doubt the Aston Martin of all cars would place higher than a Boxster S...



    This test was 'best handling' and nothing to do with slaloms or track times otherwise the Noble would have won by miles.

    Sep 29, 2005 7:24:36 AM

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    Re: Autocar Magazine Special Issue 27th Sept 2005

    could someone please scan the article

    i am wondering how this decision was made since its clearly not just lap times
     
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