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ajcastaneda said:

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Mike S said:

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ajcastaneda said:
You know, you were a nice guy until you brought that up.

LOL

hahaha, what about this one?!

Here's a better idea, take a picture of the sticker with the car that indicates its curb weight

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amir sarmad said:
i would drive an sl65 any day, if and only if, i had the balls to buy one. For its price id rather buy a ferrai or gallardo.

I gotta give it to you mike, sl65 is the ultimate luxury GT car. It demands respect

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amir sarmad said:
i would drive an sl65 any day, if and only if, i had the balls to buy one. For its price id rather buy a ferrai or gallardo.

I gotta give it to you mike, sl65 is the ultimate luxury GT car. It demands respect

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Mike S said:

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amir sarmad said:
i would drive an sl65 any day, if and only if, i had the balls to buy one. For its price id rather buy a ferrai or gallardo.

I gotta give it to you mike, sl65 is the ultimate luxury GT car. It demands respect

reason why i took this one amir was because i have a 430 spider on the way anyways, not much else I could go for

plus i really like SL's, very comfy and fast!!! plus you don't see many SL's around here as you would other places in the world. the base SL500 costs $150,000 USD here

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Mike S said:

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amir sarmad said:
i would drive an sl65 any day, if and only if, i had the balls to buy one. For its price id rather buy a ferrai or gallardo.

I gotta give it to you mike, sl65 is the ultimate luxury GT car. It demands respect

reason why i took this one amir was because i have a 430 spider on the way anyways, not much else I could go for

plus i really like SL's, very comfy and fast!!! plus you don't see many SL's around here as you would other places in the world. the base SL500 costs $150,000 USD here

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McJumJum said:
Think the Sl63 will be naturally aspirated, same as ML63.

I've got an SL500 which the wife mainly drives, pop the abcsport button to reduce the body roll, handles fine, ironically most porsche drivers would be quicker in one of these as it's easier to drive hard.

An Sl500 may only have 90% of the performance of the porsche, 95% of the grip and be a bit slower through a slalom due to the weight transfer, but it's much easier exploit nearly all of its abilities than the porsche.

We had two porkers in a row but picked this over a 997, as it was 90% of the fun, 150% as comfortable, more forgiving particularly in bad weather and more practical too.

997 is the better for the track or the winding alpine road (as long as you know what your doing), but for the other 95% of the time you own the car the SL's a better car to drive and you'll still get 90% of the fun down that alpine road.

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McJumJum said:
Think the Sl63 will be naturally aspirated, same as ML63.

I've got an SL500 which the wife mainly drives, pop the abcsport button to reduce the body roll, handles fine, ironically most porsche drivers would be quicker in one of these as it's easier to drive hard.

An Sl500 may only have 90% of the performance of the porsche, 95% of the grip and be a bit slower through a slalom due to the weight transfer, but it's much easier exploit nearly all of its abilities than the porsche.

We had two porkers in a row but picked this over a 997, as it was 90% of the fun, 150% as comfortable, more forgiving particularly in bad weather and more practical too.

997 is the better for the track or the winding alpine road (as long as you know what your doing), but for the other 95% of the time you own the car the SL's a better car to drive and you'll still get 90% of the fun down that alpine road.

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ajcastaneda said:

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McJumJum said:
Think the Sl63 will be naturally aspirated, same as ML63.

I've got an SL500 which the wife mainly drives, pop the abcsport button to reduce the body roll, handles fine, ironically most porsche drivers would be quicker in one of these as it's easier to drive hard.

An Sl500 may only have 90% of the performance of the porsche, 95% of the grip and be a bit slower through a slalom due to the weight transfer, but it's much easier exploit nearly all of its abilities than the porsche.

We had two porkers in a row but picked this over a 997, as it was 90% of the fun, 150% as comfortable, more forgiving particularly in bad weather and more practical too.

997 is the better for the track or the winding alpine road (as long as you know what your doing), but for the other 95% of the time you own the car the SL's a better car to drive and you'll still get 90% of the fun down that alpine road.

I think your percentages are way off, for the Benz, it's more like 40% of the performance, 10% of the grip, and 50328452% of the weight. A Porsche is also 500%+ more fun to drive, 1000% better to look at over that conservative Daimler styling.

While I am picking up models, the Mercedes driver in the other lane is picking up 50 year old single mother divorcees with 4 kids. The only thing I'll give you is the comfort factor. Porsches have a stiff ride, but in the a winding road environment, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a Mercedes at all.

Mercedes feel comfortable at 30mph going from apartment to apartment in the city, and that's it.

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ajcastaneda said:

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McJumJum said:
Think the Sl63 will be naturally aspirated, same as ML63.

I've got an SL500 which the wife mainly drives, pop the abcsport button to reduce the body roll, handles fine, ironically most porsche drivers would be quicker in one of these as it's easier to drive hard.

An Sl500 may only have 90% of the performance of the porsche, 95% of the grip and be a bit slower through a slalom due to the weight transfer, but it's much easier exploit nearly all of its abilities than the porsche.

We had two porkers in a row but picked this over a 997, as it was 90% of the fun, 150% as comfortable, more forgiving particularly in bad weather and more practical too.

997 is the better for the track or the winding alpine road (as long as you know what your doing), but for the other 95% of the time you own the car the SL's a better car to drive and you'll still get 90% of the fun down that alpine road.

I think your percentages are way off, for the Benz, it's more like 40% of the performance, 10% of the grip, and 50328452% of the weight. A Porsche is also 500%+ more fun to drive, 1000% better to look at over that conservative Daimler styling.

While I am picking up models, the Mercedes driver in the other lane is picking up 50 year old single mother divorcees with 4 kids. The only thing I'll give you is the comfort factor. Porsches have a stiff ride, but in the a winding road environment, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a Mercedes at all.

Mercedes feel comfortable at 30mph going from apartment to apartment in the city, and that's it.

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ajcastaneda said:
I think your percentages are way off, for the Benz, it's more like 40% of the performance, 10% of the grip, and 50328452% of the weight. A Porsche is also 500%+ more fun to drive, 1000% better to look at over that conservative Daimler styling.

While I am picking up models, the Mercedes driver in the other lane is picking up 50 year old single mother divorcees with 4 kids. The only thing I'll give you is the comfort factor. Porsches have a stiff ride, but in the a winding road environment, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a Mercedes at all.

Mercedes feel comfortable at 30mph going from apartment to apartment in the city, and that's it.

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ajcastaneda said:
I think your percentages are way off, for the Benz, it's more like 40% of the performance, 10% of the grip, and 50328452% of the weight. A Porsche is also 500%+ more fun to drive, 1000% better to look at over that conservative Daimler styling.

While I am picking up models, the Mercedes driver in the other lane is picking up 50 year old single mother divorcees with 4 kids. The only thing I'll give you is the comfort factor. Porsches have a stiff ride, but in the a winding road environment, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a Mercedes at all.

Mercedes feel comfortable at 30mph going from apartment to apartment in the city, and that's it.

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Mike S said:

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ajcastaneda said:
I think your percentages are way off, for the Benz, it's more like 40% of the performance, 10% of the grip, and 50328452% of the weight. A Porsche is also 500%+ more fun to drive, 1000% better to look at over that conservative Daimler styling.

While I am picking up models, the Mercedes driver in the other lane is picking up 50 year old single mother divorcees with 4 kids. The only thing I'll give you is the comfort factor. Porsches have a stiff ride, but in the a winding road environment, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a Mercedes at all.

Mercedes feel comfortable at 30mph going from apartment to apartment in the city, and that's it.

i disagree with you there we are talking about the SL here, not C or S class Mercs! the SL-AMG's performance can be as good as any porsche. Grip and weight... well I can't argue there, but it's not worlds apart!

the SL(the AMG models of course) is one of the most beautiful cars out there IMO - titanium grey rims with the silver slits on the bonnet and the side of the car is a bit on the far side of conservative(so long as the car isn't silver ), don't you think? it turns way more heads than the carrera

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Mike S said:

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ajcastaneda said:
I think your percentages are way off, for the Benz, it's more like 40% of the performance, 10% of the grip, and 50328452% of the weight. A Porsche is also 500%+ more fun to drive, 1000% better to look at over that conservative Daimler styling.

While I am picking up models, the Mercedes driver in the other lane is picking up 50 year old single mother divorcees with 4 kids. The only thing I'll give you is the comfort factor. Porsches have a stiff ride, but in the a winding road environment, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a Mercedes at all.

Mercedes feel comfortable at 30mph going from apartment to apartment in the city, and that's it.

i disagree with you there we are talking about the SL here, not C or S class Mercs! the SL-AMG's performance can be as good as any porsche. Grip and weight... well I can't argue there, but it's not worlds apart!

the SL(the AMG models of course) is one of the most beautiful cars out there IMO - titanium grey rims with the silver slits on the bonnet and the side of the car is a bit on the far side of conservative(so long as the car isn't silver ), don't you think? it turns way more heads than the carrera

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VKSF said:

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ajcastaneda said:

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McJumJum said:
Think the Sl63 will be naturally aspirated, same as ML63.

I've got an SL500 which the wife mainly drives, pop the abcsport button to reduce the body roll, handles fine, ironically most porsche drivers would be quicker in one of these as it's easier to drive hard.

An Sl500 may only have 90% of the performance of the porsche, 95% of the grip and be a bit slower through a slalom due to the weight transfer, but it's much easier exploit nearly all of its abilities than the porsche.

We had two porkers in a row but picked this over a 997, as it was 90% of the fun, 150% as comfortable, more forgiving particularly in bad weather and more practical too.

997 is the better for the track or the winding alpine road (as long as you know what your doing), but for the other 95% of the time you own the car the SL's a better car to drive and you'll still get 90% of the fun down that alpine road.

I think your percentages are way off, for the Benz, it's more like 40% of the performance, 10% of the grip, and 50328452% of the weight. A Porsche is also 500%+ more fun to drive, 1000% better to look at over that conservative Daimler styling.

While I am picking up models, the Mercedes driver in the other lane is picking up 50 year old single mother divorcees with 4 kids. The only thing I'll give you is the comfort factor. Porsches have a stiff ride, but in the a winding road environment, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a Mercedes at all.

Mercedes feel comfortable at 30mph going from apartment to apartment in the city, and that's it.

Highly doubt either P/Merc is very useful for picking up models....

However, a topless Gayman (aka Boxster) may attract all the male models.....not that there's anything wrong w/that....

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VKSF said:

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ajcastaneda said:

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McJumJum said:
Think the Sl63 will be naturally aspirated, same as ML63.

I've got an SL500 which the wife mainly drives, pop the abcsport button to reduce the body roll, handles fine, ironically most porsche drivers would be quicker in one of these as it's easier to drive hard.

An Sl500 may only have 90% of the performance of the porsche, 95% of the grip and be a bit slower through a slalom due to the weight transfer, but it's much easier exploit nearly all of its abilities than the porsche.

We had two porkers in a row but picked this over a 997, as it was 90% of the fun, 150% as comfortable, more forgiving particularly in bad weather and more practical too.

997 is the better for the track or the winding alpine road (as long as you know what your doing), but for the other 95% of the time you own the car the SL's a better car to drive and you'll still get 90% of the fun down that alpine road.

I think your percentages are way off, for the Benz, it's more like 40% of the performance, 10% of the grip, and 50328452% of the weight. A Porsche is also 500%+ more fun to drive, 1000% better to look at over that conservative Daimler styling.

While I am picking up models, the Mercedes driver in the other lane is picking up 50 year old single mother divorcees with 4 kids. The only thing I'll give you is the comfort factor. Porsches have a stiff ride, but in the a winding road environment, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a Mercedes at all.

Mercedes feel comfortable at 30mph going from apartment to apartment in the city, and that's it.

Highly doubt either P/Merc is very useful for picking up models....

However, a topless Gayman (aka Boxster) may attract all the male models.....not that there's anything wrong w/that....

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ajcastaneda said:

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VKSF said:

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ajcastaneda said:

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McJumJum said:
Think the Sl63 will be naturally aspirated, same as ML63.

I've got an SL500 which the wife mainly drives, pop the abcsport button to reduce the body roll, handles fine, ironically most porsche drivers would be quicker in one of these as it's easier to drive hard.

An Sl500 may only have 90% of the performance of the porsche, 95% of the grip and be a bit slower through a slalom due to the weight transfer, but it's much easier exploit nearly all of its abilities than the porsche.

We had two porkers in a row but picked this over a 997, as it was 90% of the fun, 150% as comfortable, more forgiving particularly in bad weather and more practical too.

997 is the better for the track or the winding alpine road (as long as you know what your doing), but for the other 95% of the time you own the car the SL's a better car to drive and you'll still get 90% of the fun down that alpine road.

I think your percentages are way off, for the Benz, it's more like 40% of the performance, 10% of the grip, and 50328452% of the weight. A Porsche is also 500%+ more fun to drive, 1000% better to look at over that conservative Daimler styling.

While I am picking up models, the Mercedes driver in the other lane is picking up 50 year old single mother divorcees with 4 kids. The only thing I'll give you is the comfort factor. Porsches have a stiff ride, but in the a winding road environment, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a Mercedes at all.

Mercedes feel comfortable at 30mph going from apartment to apartment in the city, and that's it.

Highly doubt either P/Merc is very useful for picking up models....

However, a topless Gayman (aka Boxster) may attract all the male models.....not that there's anything wrong w/that....

Sadly, that has happened on more than one occasion when leaving the gym and uhh, homosexual men seeing me walking to my 987S, it's an odd feeling. But it works well with women too - I always get them on the proper pronounciation of Porsche, and where the word Boxster is derived from.

Models are so easy to please.

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ajcastaneda said:

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VKSF said:

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ajcastaneda said:

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McJumJum said:
Think the Sl63 will be naturally aspirated, same as ML63.

I've got an SL500 which the wife mainly drives, pop the abcsport button to reduce the body roll, handles fine, ironically most porsche drivers would be quicker in one of these as it's easier to drive hard.

An Sl500 may only have 90% of the performance of the porsche, 95% of the grip and be a bit slower through a slalom due to the weight transfer, but it's much easier exploit nearly all of its abilities than the porsche.

We had two porkers in a row but picked this over a 997, as it was 90% of the fun, 150% as comfortable, more forgiving particularly in bad weather and more practical too.

997 is the better for the track or the winding alpine road (as long as you know what your doing), but for the other 95% of the time you own the car the SL's a better car to drive and you'll still get 90% of the fun down that alpine road.

I think your percentages are way off, for the Benz, it's more like 40% of the performance, 10% of the grip, and 50328452% of the weight. A Porsche is also 500%+ more fun to drive, 1000% better to look at over that conservative Daimler styling.

While I am picking up models, the Mercedes driver in the other lane is picking up 50 year old single mother divorcees with 4 kids. The only thing I'll give you is the comfort factor. Porsches have a stiff ride, but in the a winding road environment, I wouldn't feel comfortable in a Mercedes at all.

Mercedes feel comfortable at 30mph going from apartment to apartment in the city, and that's it.

Highly doubt either P/Merc is very useful for picking up models....

However, a topless Gayman (aka Boxster) may attract all the male models.....not that there's anything wrong w/that....

Sadly, that has happened on more than one occasion when leaving the gym and uhh, homosexual men seeing me walking to my 987S, it's an odd feeling. But it works well with women too - I always get them on the proper pronounciation of Porsche, and where the word Boxster is derived from.

Models are so easy to please.

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ajcastaneda said:
Here in NY, Mercedes are everywhere, I mean everywhere

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ajcastaneda said:
they are all the same (it doesn't help that Mercedes makes it so that every car in their line up looks almost the same on the front end).

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ajcastaneda said:
The only Mercedes that would probably turn heads here would be a SLR McLaren.

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ajcastaneda said:
You see an S Class here, you automatically assume the license plate says "T&LC" or "Livery", you see a CLK here, you almost always see a club meathead driving it with techno music, an E class is as ubiquitous as yellow taxi cabs, and don't even get me started on the C classes that get converted into rice rockets by morons from the Bronx.

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ajcastaneda said:
If they do manage to turn their head and notice that it's an SL, it's usually for about a second, and then they hear a loud SPORTS-CAR (read: Porsche) and they turn their head away from the tank-cruiser sports-car wanna be.

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ajcastaneda said:
Porsches are drawn up from the first day they are conceived to be sports cars, AMG models try and make their models "sporty" by jacking meaningless horsepower up and putting on larger disc brakes and putting on that AMG badge which can be found on NON-AMG models with AMG styling packages! Lots of room for pretension.

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ajcastaneda said:
Oh and Mike, for God's sakes just turn your avatar into that American Three-Pointed Star, or better yet, make it a picture of Daimler's "Just as Good as Germany" American manufacturing plant in the Carolinas.

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ajcastaneda said:
<--- that's me waving in my rear view mirror at a Mercedes

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ajcastaneda said:
Here in NY, Mercedes are everywhere, I mean everywhere

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ajcastaneda said:
they are all the same (it doesn't help that Mercedes makes it so that every car in their line up looks almost the same on the front end).

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ajcastaneda said:
The only Mercedes that would probably turn heads here would be a SLR McLaren.

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ajcastaneda said:
You see an S Class here, you automatically assume the license plate says "T&LC" or "Livery", you see a CLK here, you almost always see a club meathead driving it with techno music, an E class is as ubiquitous as yellow taxi cabs, and don't even get me started on the C classes that get converted into rice rockets by morons from the Bronx.

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ajcastaneda said:
If they do manage to turn their head and notice that it's an SL, it's usually for about a second, and then they hear a loud SPORTS-CAR (read: Porsche) and they turn their head away from the tank-cruiser sports-car wanna be.

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ajcastaneda said:
Porsches are drawn up from the first day they are conceived to be sports cars, AMG models try and make their models "sporty" by jacking meaningless horsepower up and putting on larger disc brakes and putting on that AMG badge which can be found on NON-AMG models with AMG styling packages! Lots of room for pretension.

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ajcastaneda said:
Oh and Mike, for God's sakes just turn your avatar into that American Three-Pointed Star, or better yet, make it a picture of Daimler's "Just as Good as Germany" American manufacturing plant in the Carolinas.

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ajcastaneda said:
<--- that's me waving in my rear view mirror at a Mercedes

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Mike S said:

I'd like to see you try wave at me in your 987 when I'm in my 65

My conclusion, I have nothing wrong with specifically the "SL" class, I wouldn't dare buy another type of Merc. I also love my Porsches just as much. Why can't you just have peace of mind with both?

ps. no hard feelings, just good old fashion debating

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Mike S said:

I'd like to see you try wave at me in your 987 when I'm in my 65

My conclusion, I have nothing wrong with specifically the "SL" class, I wouldn't dare buy another type of Merc. I also love my Porsches just as much. Why can't you just have peace of mind with both?

ps. no hard feelings, just good old fashion debating

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VKSF said:

nuts are most often seen driving around in their 55/65's, despite the Merc being one of the cheaper, more plebeian cars in their fleets....

What's always funny is what cars guys w/sub-$100K cars envision driving in their fantasy world of the uber-rich and what cars actual uber-rich car nuts often choose to own and most often drive, despite having any orgasmic, "exclusive" car they want in their garage.....

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VKSF said:

nuts are most often seen driving around in their 55/65's, despite the Merc being one of the cheaper, more plebeian cars in their fleets....

What's always funny is what cars guys w/sub-$100K cars envision driving in their fantasy world of the uber-rich and what cars actual uber-rich car nuts often choose to own and most often drive, despite having any orgasmic, "exclusive" car they want in their garage.....

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ajcastaneda said:
Now if I switched cars to my 911 Turbo where would you be?

And also, FYI - I'll place my money on a 987S on a twisty road vs. any Mercedes except the SLR.

Debating is cool.