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teutonictrio said:
I'm sure a 987S can outrun a 997 base, as the 986S can outrun a 996 base (again, in the right hands and on a technical course). The corner speeds of the 986S are much higher, and with the 987S improving on that, I can't imagine how it wouldn't be faster than a 997
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JimFlat6 said:
You guys are on 987 fantasy island if you think a 987S will outrun a Carrera.
Sep 17, 2005 7:51:37 AM
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teutonictrio said:
Sheesh, who wants to go to 150?
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JZ said:
to see how little the difference between the 987 and the 987S is, look at the 987S tip performance. You'll see the 987 2.7 manual is quicker or the same.
Sep 17, 2005 10:46:00 AM
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JZ said:
to see how little the difference between the 987 and the 987S is, look at the 987S tip performance. You'll see the 987 2.7 manual is quicker or the same.
Compare the 2.7 manual to the 3.2 tip? How does that help? You've lost me.
Sep 17, 2005 12:00:27 PM
Quote:It actually beat the CGT too. The 987S has the highest slalom speed of any non-race car Road & Track has ever tested. The Enzo was the previous record holder. I'm anticipating that the Cayman S will beat the 987S with it's stiffer chassis.
long720 said: And let's not forget, despite of power delivery, 987 / 987s with PASM ties with the CGT in terms of salom speed (i believe i read somewhere it was in the 70s, and was faster than an Enzo)
Sep 17, 2005 12:04:17 PM
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LowPolarMoment said:Quote:Are you sure? There is between the 986 vs 986S.
JZ said: By the way, there is NO difference between the suspension setup on the 2.7 vs the S. None whatso ever.
Sep 17, 2005 12:18:37 PM
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LowPolarMoment said:Quote:Are you sure? There is between the 986 vs 986S.
JZ said: By the way, there is NO difference between the suspension setup on the 2.7 vs the S. None whatso ever.
Check here to read the comparison between the 986 MY04 vs the 987 MY 05 in the dealer product information. Its in chapter 1 and shows a table comparing the 986 and 987.
You'll see that there was no difference in the suspension setup between the 986 and 986S unless you ordered the sports suspension and that there are improvements in the 987 standard suspension but no difference between the 987 and 987S unless you order PASM, which is available on both cars.
http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3443
Cheers,
JZ
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wtsnet said:
Compare the 2.7 manual to the 3.2 tip? How does that help? You've lost me.
Just pointing out that the addition of a tip brings the S performance down to the level of a manual 2.7, therefore indicating that there is not a great deal of difference between the S and the 2.7.....that or the Tip saps huge amounts of power (which it doesn't).
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wtsnet said:
Compare the 2.7 manual to the 3.2 tip? How does that help? You've lost me.
Just pointing out that the addition of a tip brings the S performance down to the level of a manual 2.7, therefore indicating that there is not a great deal of difference between the S and the 2.7.....that or the Tip saps huge amounts of power (which it doesn't).
I see where your reasoning comes from, but you can't compare like that though, surely, as the gear ratios of the tip are different to the 5-speed manual.
Sep 17, 2005 2:57:13 PM
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LowPolarMoment said:Quote:Are you sure? There is between the 986 vs 986S.
JZ said: By the way, there is NO difference between the suspension setup on the 2.7 vs the S. None whatso ever.
Check here to read the comparison between the 986 MY04 vs the 987 MY 05 in the dealer product information. Its in chapter 1 and shows a table comparing the 986 and 987.
You'll see that there was no difference in the suspension setup between the 986 and 986S unless you ordered the sports suspension and that there are improvements in the 987 standard suspension but no difference between the 987 and 987S unless you order PASM, which is available on both cars.
http://www.renntech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=3443
Cheers,
JZ
I don't think you're interpreting the info correctly. They both have "basic" set up, according to the chart, but I'm under the impression that the suspension (springs and shocks) was calibrated a little stiffer on the S. The 030 set up on the 986 and 986S were different from each other too. All of the part numbers are different.