Sep 7, 2005 5:43:47 PM
- STRADALE
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sparetireless said:
Power seats are 2500 USd up in smoke, one adjustment and you are done. On resale, power seats add nothing. Daytona seats are killer though. Backeruper protection is a cheap date, do it. Yellow tach sucks, kills your night vision.\\
Get the big radio and as much leather as you can afford.
The real question is do the CCB brakes do jack shee shee?
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sparetireless said:
Power seats are 2500 USd up in smoke, one adjustment and you are done. On resale, power seats add nothing. Daytona seats are killer though. Backeruper protection is a cheap date, do it. Yellow tach sucks, kills your night vision.\\
Get the big radio and as much leather as you can afford.
The real question is do the CCB brakes do jack shee shee?
You are right about the power seats, but for the rest I have to disagree.
If you like the Daytonas is highly subjective. There seems to be a hype for Daytonas in the US. For me they look alright in a Spider but don't fit the Berlinetta. Also they looked better with the 360 seats than with those of the F430.
Battery charger is highly overpriced, although you get a nice leather case with it. Battery in the 430 is quite accessible in the passenger compartment, so you can easily attach a battery charger. F430 has a gel battery though, so you need a special charger, but you can get it here for about 50 to 100 Euro.
Yellow tach is also subjective, but IMO the way to go. If it's too bright in the dark, just dim it.
Big radio is waste of money, doesn't improve sound very much but limits space behind the seat, as well as overpriced for what you get.
Leather is fine, but only for the headliner. Leather at the rear bench will come leather sills, not to anyone's taste.
CCM finally is state of the art brake technology.
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Manuma said:
Hi guys, I'm new here, you maybe know me for a Video on track.
I have the 430 with carbon and dark rimes, you can see some photos at http://homepage.mac.com/manuma/PhotoAlbum5.html
Maybe you can choose something to put on your new 430
Sep 8, 2005 5:16:12 PM
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sparetireless said:
Power seats are 2500 USd up in smoke, one adjustment and you are done. On resale, power seats add nothing.
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STRADALE said:
CCM - The only must have on a coupe imo. Does it look crazy cool ? Answer - Yes. Okay then. Second question - Does it keep your wheels looking clean - Yup. Do they work better under track like conditions - Yup. No brainer.
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STRADALE said:
CCM - The only must have on a coupe imo. Does it look crazy cool ? Answer - Yes. Okay then. Second question - Does it keep your wheels looking clean - Yup. Do they work better under track like conditions - Yup. No brainer.
I agree they look great, but with the stock brakes, if you change to Motul fluid and semi-race pads, you will be very happy, and a lot richer. I passed on the carbon brakes because I like to track, and I can't stomach the replacement costs on the pads and rotors. I can get used to the looks...and I ordered Challenge wheels, which should help.
Gary
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STRADALE said:
CCM - The only must have on a coupe imo. Does it look crazy cool ? Answer - Yes. Okay then. Second question - Does it keep your wheels looking clean - Yup. Do they work better under track like conditions - Yup. No brainer.
I agree they look great, but with the stock brakes, if you change to Motul fluid and semi-race pads, you will be very happy, and a lot richer. I passed on the carbon brakes because I like to track, and I can't stomach the replacement costs on the pads and rotors. I can get used to the looks...and I ordered Challenge wheels, which should help.
Gary
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STRADALE said:
CCM - The only must have on a coupe imo. Does it look crazy cool ? Answer - Yes. Okay then. Second question - Does it keep your wheels looking clean - Yup. Do they work better under track like conditions - Yup. No brainer.
I agree they look great, but with the stock brakes, if you change to Motul fluid and semi-race pads, you will be very happy, and a lot richer. I passed on the carbon brakes because I like to track, and I can't stomach the replacement costs on the pads and rotors. I can get used to the looks...and I ordered Challenge wheels, which should help.
Gary
Gary - I would've done the same thing. Factoring in the price of new carbon rotors makes a trackday very expensive...
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STRADALE said:
CCM - The only must have on a coupe imo. Does it look crazy cool ? Answer - Yes. Okay then. Second question - Does it keep your wheels looking clean - Yup. Do they work better under track like conditions - Yup. No brainer.
I agree they look great, but with the stock brakes, if you change to Motul fluid and semi-race pads, you will be very happy, and a lot richer. I passed on the carbon brakes because I like to track, and I can't stomach the replacement costs on the pads and rotors. I can get used to the looks...and I ordered Challenge wheels, which should help.
Gary
Gary - I would've done the same thing. Factoring in the price of new carbon rotors makes a trackday very expensive...
I have never heard of anybody who has to replace the rotors !
The pads needs to be replaced, but the rotors ????
Anybody knows of someone that had replced the rotors ?
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STRADALE said:
CCM - The only must have on a coupe imo. Does it look crazy cool ? Answer - Yes. Okay then. Second question - Does it keep your wheels looking clean - Yup. Do they work better under track like conditions - Yup. No brainer.
I agree they look great, but with the stock brakes, if you change to Motul fluid and semi-race pads, you will be very happy, and a lot richer. I passed on the carbon brakes because I like to track, and I can't stomach the replacement costs on the pads and rotors. I can get used to the looks...and I ordered Challenge wheels, which should help.
Gary
Gary - I would've done the same thing. Factoring in the price of new carbon rotors makes a trackday very expensive...
I have never heard of anybody who has to replace the rotors !
The pads needs to be replaced, but the rotors ????
Anybody knows of someone that had replced the rotors ?
True. Didn't catch that. I assumed he was only talking about the pads.
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STRADALE said:
I rather spend the money on CCM's then anything else.
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STRADALE said:
I rather spend the money on CCM's then anything else.
Like you said, everyone has to decide for themselves. I gave it a lot of thought. My 360 with comp pads and fluid was simply excellent on track days, I anticipate the 430 to be the same, especially since Ferrari has upgraded the standard brakes. And clean-up? Good grief. I gave my wheels a spritz of PS21 wheel cleaner, hosed 'em off, and that was it...and frankly they never looked that bad in between washes after I got rid of the stock pads. So far, I'm not regretting my decision, but on the other hand, if you must have them, more power to you. They certainly look a lot better.
And yes, I think rotor replacement is a definite possibility...at least I don't want to bet that it's not.
Gary
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Grant said:
Yes, and hopefully the price of carbon rotors will come down significantly over the next several years, at which point you can retrofit them if you're so inclined...
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RC said:
You should definetely get the ceramic brake.
Color-wise, I'd go with a red exterior, black leather and yellow stitching, black painted wheels and yellow brake calipers. I saw a Gallardo done this way in St.Tropez, it looked great.
In my opinion, red is the only exterior color to go in a Ferrari with, maybe I'm crazy.
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STRADALE said:
I rather spend the money on CCM's then anything else.
Like you said, everyone has to decide for themselves. I gave it a lot of thought. My 360 with comp pads and fluid was simply excellent on track days, I anticipate the 430 to be the same, especially since Ferrari has upgraded the standard brakes. And clean-up? Good grief. I gave my wheels a spritz of PS21 wheel cleaner, hosed 'em off, and that was it...and frankly they never looked that bad in between washes after I got rid of the stock pads. So far, I'm not regretting my decision, but on the other hand, if you must have them, more power to you. They certainly look a lot better.
And yes, I think rotor replacement is a definite possibility...at least I don't want to bet that it's not.
Gary
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Grant said:
Yes, and hopefully the price of carbon rotors will come down significantly over the next several years, at which point you can retrofit them if you're so inclined...
I also hope so, but I think eventually that will happen. The more manufacturers will use Carbon-Ceramic-brakes, the more the prices will drop. Next company will be Audi, which will introduce CC-brakes at their RS-models, but they use the Porsche supplier, SGL Carbon.
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STRADALE said:
...and I couldn't stop thinking of McDonalds.
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STRADALE said:
I'm pretty sure I have my color combos finished.
So how did you decide then? Rosso corsa/black/red stitching and some red inserts?
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STRADALE said:
Bet you cant wait . How long now before delivery ?