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MKSGR said:In the end the Porsche TT has a strong reputation for being the fastest and most efficient sports car around. That is why I like any innovation that makes the car faster. If it is sheer driving pleasure you are after the perfect car should be a Ferrari
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MKW said:
Subjectives aside, imagine the Turbo's engine at full boost being able to keep as much of that boost as possible in continuous full throttle aplication up the gears with the DSG's advantages over a slushbox, full manual or single clutch seq manual like such as offered by Ferrari or BMW !OTOH, perhaps that is why there are rumors of torque stress issues ( peak and width of it's fat TQ curve vs say a peaky Ferrari motor ) in their testing so far with this box on the Turbos . [/quo
well, just imagine the stress the DSG manages to handle in the Bugatti already: 1001 hp, 1250 Nm tourque, 1950 kg, 0-100 in 2.5.
the clutch there has the size of the drum of a small washing machine! no way the output of a 997tt engine would be able to stress a DSG too much!
Sep 1, 2005 6:45:40 PM
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Your rant should be the mission statement for the dinosaur club. Not only do you manage to trash most if not all technology but for good measure you throw in a mix of sexism. You should be the poster child for all that is old and backward.
Sep 1, 2005 6:47:37 PM
Sep 1, 2005 7:20:58 PM
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Grant said:
Nicely said, 69!
Sep 1, 2005 7:40:34 PM
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Sep 1, 2005 8:43:10 PM
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LowPolarMoment said:
Bossnine, I'm thinking once we all start driving DSG, they'll give us cars that steer themselves. Now that will be maximum tech, minimum fun.
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Bossnine, I'm thinking once we all start driving DSG, they'll give us cars that steer themselves. Now that will be maximum tech, minimum fun.
It's no joke - this technology (cars that steer themselves with sensors in the road) has been seriously under development. I think we're living in the golden age right now - things will not likely get better from here...
Sep 2, 2005 12:55:34 AM
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69bossnine said:
Why is Porsche so late in the game with DSG?? Maybe Porsche feels like I do. That it's monumentally uninvolving and makes what used to be challenging, stupifyingly easy.
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Why is Porsche so late in the game with DSG?? Maybe Porsche feels like I do. That it's monumentally uninvolving and makes what used to be challenging, stupifyingly easy.
Porsche AG is in the business of selling cars. If they thought that sticking a flower vase in the dash sold cars then that is what they would do. And in any case, I think you're losing sight of the design goal of Porsche's Turbo line. It is intended as a Grand Touring car. It is not intended as a track car like the GT3. As a Grand Touring car, automatic does need to be an option.
No, the real reason that PAG is following up the rear is because they insist on maintaining their independence even when it is no longer economic and as a consequence do not have the resources to develop a system such as this while simultaneously doing what they need to do to keep their models current.
Stephen
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... if a co. selling <5K cars/yr can develop and refine an F1 box yrs before P, I doubt the small size excuse makes sense.....
You do know that "F" stands for Fiat, right?
Stephen
Sep 2, 2005 3:01:51 PM
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DaveC said:
I mentioned in another posting the strength of the human atavistic impulse, and nowhere is this better exemplified than the 1973 911 RS, the automotive equivalent of Man in his loincloth, fresh kill in his belly, and woman unquestionly attending his every need.
Sep 2, 2005 3:31:40 PM
Sep 2, 2005 9:34:38 PM
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69bossnine said:
As opposed to metro-sexual man in his Birkenstocks, fresh Starbucks in his belly, and woman unquestionly blowing off his every need while she yacks with her girlfriend-slash-secret-lover on her BlackBerry??
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69bossnine said:
As opposed to metro-sexual man in his Birkenstocks, fresh Starbucks in his belly, and woman unquestionly blowing off his every need while she yacks with her girlfriend-slash-secret-lover on her BlackBerry??
So which car would be the automotive equivalent of this guy?
Sep 4, 2005 5:06:05 PM