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Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
Mine was August 2011, model 2012. Maybe they fixed the issue? Overall I'm very happy with the quality of the interior. I picked the natural leather Espresso and it still looks very good after 5 years of use and abuse (kids). Two times a year I put some Swizol leather conditioner on and that's all. Have to say the car is in the garage all the time.
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Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
specifying lots of Porsche exlusive leather bits can really uplift the interior...at a price.
in my 997 turbo I went mad and chose almost all extra leather bits like vents seatbelt exit etc. etc....made it feel very upscale.
the leather in my aston is classes above the leather that I have in my other cars. furthermore in the aston what looks like aluminium actually is. its these little details that make a car special.
while the aston in terms of finishing is a maximum 8.5/10 it does feel different and special. maybe it also has to do that aston has a different (awkward) way of doing things, hence it also feels different but with the materials mix its more special than strange.
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Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
the issue with many other cars I believe is parts sharing....
in the lower cars parts are manufactured with mainly cost in mind.
put these parts in the higher end cars and it drags the quality feel down. handles, switches, knobs etc.
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Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
intouch1:the issue with many other cars I believe is parts sharing....
in the lower cars parts are manufactured with mainly cost in mind.
put these parts in the higher end cars and it drags the quality feel down. handles, switches, knobs etc.
True but for example if you take a Macan and a Cayenne and put the together side by side, the interior quality is clearly better on the Cayenne. The leather, the plastic, everything just looks a tiny bit better on the Cayenne. So Porsche really tries to make a difference between lower and higher priced products.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
mcdelaug:Material quality, for practically everything IS subjective. But each individual's ability to perceive qualitative differences and their level of concern about such a perception is variable. Part of the enjoyment with luxury goods comes from understanding just how much effort is required for ever smaller degrees of improvement. This is the essence of connoisseurship. I think some customers might care a great deal about details like leather texture... I think when a luxury manufacturer begins "de-contesting" it denotes a compromise in their standards, a change in their overall culture perhaps. I can fully understand why some would take this difference very seriously.
+1 very well said 
. Confirmed by several comments made in this thread that the attention to detail is subjective and that some just don't have the ability to differentiate high quality materials and products from those that aren't.
Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
Guys, there maybe e quality issues here and there, even on newer cars but overall, Porsche quality has really improved lot over years. My first 996 spent two weeks in Weissach(!)... 
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
Itsme:BiTurbo:RC:Oops...this is not good. Material quality usually goes up, not down (see Porsche, they really improved material quality over the past ten years).
GT3 engine fire
My ex. CTT
It looks like a photo of my steering wheel. I had the same problem
This looks similar to the delamination on my MacBook Pro screen (Retina). Interesting...
Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
intouch1:specifying lots of Porsche exlusive leather bits can really uplift the interior...at a price.
in my 997 turbo I went mad and chose almost all extra leather bits like vents seatbelt exit etc. etc....made it feel very upscale.
I agree. I was very surprised when I returned to the 911 Targa Florio Mayfair Edition by how much of a difference this makes - at a cost as you say!
Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
BiTurbo:RC:Oops...this is not good. Material quality usually goes up, not down (see Porsche, they really improved material quality over the past ten years).
GT3 engine fire
My ex. CTT
This is a know problem from the first batch of steering wheels and will be exchanged under warrenty
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Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
I think it is a smart move. The V12 2+2 have always been produced in small numbers as it was very expensive and has epic depreciation. The V8 turbo will be cheaper but has no AWD. They are going after the high end Panamera and AMG.
Personally I would prefer buy a two year old V12 AWD than a new V8T...
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SciFrog:I think it is a smart move. The V12 2+2 have always been produced in small numbers as it was very expensive and has epic depreciation. The V8 turbo will be cheaper but has no AWD. They are going after the high end Panamera and AMG.
Personally I would prefer buy a two year old V12 AWD than a new V8T...
Makes sense. I still wonder though if Ferrari will offer an AWD option for the T version. 
Would make sense.
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RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
For casual driving and emotions though, you cannot beat the manual 612. I can't seem to be able to part with it. It's rarity just adds cherry on top of the cake. Prices seem to have cooled off from the peak.
The FF just looks bad from a 3/4 rear angle. I was hoping it would get better with time but it doesnt... The Lusso solved some issues but photographs bad, can't wait to see one in real.
Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
SciFrog:For casual driving and emotions though, you cannot beat the manual 612. I can't seem to be able to part with it. It's rarity just adds cherry on top of the cake. Prices seem to have cooled off from the peak.
The FF just looks bad from a 3/4 rear angle. I was hoping it would get better with time but it doesnt... The Lusso solved some issues but photographs bad, can't wait to see one in real.
If you thought the FF looks bad - I doubt you will take to the Lusso either. I am going to be driving the Lusso at the end of the month, and will report back.
Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
anyone here actually owned a FF?
the used prices have dropped to an "acceptable" level and the V12 is to die for. and the Lusso looks worse to my eyes, plus I can't afford it brand new anyway.
i think the FF qualifies for the 7 yr free servicing which helps a bit.....
how is the depreciation on those? it's important cos I don't keep my cars for too long.
I am looking at a 12 or 13' year one. in Aust, it's about 40% off new car price.
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Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
derder:anyone here actually owned a FF?
the used prices have dropped to an "acceptable" level and the V12 is to die for. and the Lusso looks worse to my eyes, plus I can't afford it brand new anyway.
i think the FF qualifies for the 7 yr free servicing which helps a bit.....
how is the depreciation on those? it's important cos I don't keep my cars for too long.
I am looking at a 12 or 13' year one. in Aust, it's about 40% off new car price.
I have had 2 of them. The FF does qualify for the 7 year service plan. its a great car and as far as I am concerned in a category al of its own - 4 seats, 4WD, V12 sound to die for, decent boot. A 3 to 4 year old car will be well in to the flatter part of its depreciation curve - dot it - its a no brainer !
Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
derder:thanks Crayphile.
how would you compare that to the Rapide S.
different price point, but I am comparing a near new Aston with a 4 yr old FF....
as you can gather I am looking for a V12 that can seat 4 and a decent boot.
The Rapide has far poorer rear seat space, inferior engine, and no 4WD . I will say it again - the FF is unrivalled.
Re: Ferrari FF / GTC4Lusso
crayphile:derder:thanks Crayphile.
how would you compare that to the Rapide S.
different price point, but I am comparing a near new Aston with a 4 yr old FF....
as you can gather I am looking for a V12 that can seat 4 and a decent boot.
The Rapide has far poorer rear seat space, inferior engine, and no 4WD . I will say it again - the FF is unrivalled.
Does the FF have ISOFIX in the rear seats? 
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