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RC said:
Since my dealer (and other dealers I know over here in Germany) doesn't have a SINGLE Cayman S pre-order, I somehow think that the press gets a lot of "attention" from Porsche to make people actually think that the Cayman S is AT LEAST a 911 competitor. How to justify the higher price tag otherwise?
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Revvv said:
RC, I know you know what you are talking about, and I know that you are a Porsche enthusiast, and I am a Porsche salesman; but I beg to differ. Maybe the economy in Germany
is not quite as robust as in South Florida, but I have,
personnaly about 15 pre-order reservations (with $ Deposits)
and our dealership has about a total of 35 Reservations
( with Money ) for 2006 Cayman S model. People here in the
States are VERY excited about this new model, and so am I !
Revvv
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Revvv said:
It may be a good 2 years, though.
Jul 3, 2005 12:00:46 AM
Jul 3, 2005 2:17:21 AM
Jul 3, 2005 2:42:10 AM
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Martin Tyler said:
I'd like to know where people get the idea that the Cayman isnt what anyone wants, has there been surveys or something?
How good the sales are will be interesting, but plenty of people do want a Cayman - of course they would like it to cost less than a Boxster, but thats not the point, i'd like a 997 to cost less too. Not everyone thinks or wants the same as you (thats not directed at anyone in particular).
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RC said:
I personally think that the Cayman is Porsche's answer to a question nobody asked. Some people wanted an entry level model, others a lightweight track racer. The Cayman is a nice model, no doubt about it but it isn't the answer to the questions potential customers actually asked.
(...)
But also think about this: the Cayman isn't something people really wanted. So the question is: where do customers come from? The answer is simple: from current Boxster and 911 models. So you win some...and loose some, not sure if this is what Porsche really wanted.
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DaveC said:
I'd be interested to learn about what non-Porsche competition exists (or will exist) for the Cayman.
Jul 4, 2005 9:08:57 AM
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MikeN said:
No, there are no valid statistics but if you have followed this particular Cayman list since the inception you can pretty much get an idea of what SOME people are thinking.
I for one tend to agree with the "answer to no particular question" thinking.
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DaveC said:
I'd be interested to learn about what non-Porsche competition exists (or will exist) for the Cayman.
Comparing actual performance and subjective driver appeal:
Nissan 350, Audi TT, Merc SLK, Corvette.
If you take the brand magnetizm into the equation: None.
My 2 cents
Jul 4, 2005 3:43:49 PM
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MikeN said:
No, there are no valid statistics but if you have followed this particular Cayman list since the inception you can pretty much get an idea of what SOME people are thinking.
I for one tend to agree with the "answer to no particular question" thinking.
I have followed this cayman section since it opened, and have seen plenty of people say they want one and will be buying one.
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RC said:
Since my dealer (and other dealers I know over here in Germany) doesn't have a SINGLE Cayman S pre-order, I somehow think that the press gets a lot of "attention" from Porsche to make people actually think that the Cayman S is AT LEAST a 911 competitor. How to justify the higher price tag otherwise?
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DaveC said:
I don't find the mixed reaction to the Cayman all that surprising. If you want or own a Boxster you don't want a Cayman. If you want or have a 911 you certainly don't want to hear the appellation "mini-911" applied to a car junior to your current (prospective) object of desire.
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DaveC said:
Way I think you and I are in a relatively small minority. I had a 99 Boxster and despite the improvements would prefer a Cayman, based on what's available so far, anyway.
Jul 8, 2005 12:54:33 AM
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MMD said:
Oh Boy! Just think of all the high school kids who will have to go nuts trying to get their minds around THAT idea (Cayman better than 911!).
hey im still a high school kid!!
They're the only ones who seriously read those mags, aren't they?
Jul 9, 2005 2:41:05 PM
Jul 9, 2005 3:03:45 PM
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Topless9114S said:
There are a number of posters in this thread that sadden me a great deal, that I refuse to even take the time to quote.
I may be biased (and of course, I am) because I own a 2004 911 Carrera Cabriolet C4S. Come on now guys... Cayman better than this? Or is this just a way to justify buying a Porsche with a nice design (all Porsches have nice designs) because of a cheaper price tag in order to say it is better than a 911...
Yeah.. some of you hit a sore spot with me... why don't you try to say something nice about a Cayman without bashing a classic 911 Porsche that has been successful in the market for generations and is a hell of a nice Porsche too...
PS. Regardless of my distaste of what I have read in this thread, I do happen to think the Cayman is a nice looking car and I have no disrespect for it's debut as well. As far as its success? Time will tell, but I will say one thing... we all already know the success the 911 has had.
Hopefully, the Cayman will be just as nice looking on the road as all the other Porsche models that exist today and in the future.