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Sep 30, 2016 1:39:35 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

Leawood911:
I think you know the answer. Go to that tuner and get the original software installed. I doubt the dealer will complain about any warranty issue if you are happy with the sound again. Obviously it can't be Audi policy but they would be idiots to complain or make a case of it. Look at it this way. If you fight them in court to fix your car you will lose (as you pointed out the judge will not be happy). If you have a warranty issue as a result that would be a totally different court fight they would rather avoid. Likely hood of it happening is close to nill. So get your sound back. Screw the expensive exhaust option or warranty threats. This is the same attitude they took with all their wealthy R8 customers.

Cleared that with that tuner today, he has the original and unmodified software for my car but I am still waiting for Audi to react to the latest "escalation" in the chain of command. Smiley

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Sep 30, 2016 4:09:12 AM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: RC

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

R8 e-tron is the R8 I'd be interested in. I have a feeling though it won't be that quick.

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Sep 30, 2016 5:23:43 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: noone1

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noone1:
R8 e-tron is the R8 I'd be interested in. I have a feeling though it won't be that quick.

Looked quite fast in that video, if you ask me but of course it sounds like sh.t. Smiley

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Oct 13, 2016 10:42:50 AM

ALDO: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany, Black Forrest , Germany; Posts: 3072, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

If someone has interest: Audi Zentrum Mühlacker offers a brand new Audi R8 V10 plus, 36 month lease, 15.000 km per year no down payment for 1.999 € incl. VAT.

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Oct 13, 2016 10:55:48 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: ALDO

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

ALDO:
If someone has interest: Audi Zentrum Mühlacker offers a brand new Audi R8 V10 plus, 36 month lease, 15.000 km per year no down payment for 1.999 € incl. VAT.

Interesting offer for a new car but the question is what options this car has? Sport exhaust, Dynamic Steering, Magnetic Ride and sport seats (instead of the too thin sport shells) are must have options, Laserlight (Matrix) is not a must but a nice thing to have. Same goes to the carbon package which adds a certain "aha" effect to it.

There are many nice offers available right now for used R8 in Germany but careful, most used cars are Audi 24 Hours Experience cars and personally, I wouldn't get one, despite the low mileage. Smiley

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Oct 13, 2016 11:16:48 AM

ALDO: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Germany, Black Forrest , Germany; Posts: 3072, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 2, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

The car is brand new and the lease offer is about 0,85-0,9% so you can configure as you like.

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Oct 13, 2016 11:49:01 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: ALDO

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

ALDO:
The car is brand new and the lease offer is about 0,85-0,9% so you can configure as you like.

Good offer. Smiley

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Oct 13, 2016 3:52:17 PM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: ALDO

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

Eh, not sure that it's that great of a deal. 72K Euro after 3 years? Think you'd do better owning it outright with the freedom to sell at any given time.

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Oct 13, 2016 6:03:08 PM

Conny997: Expert; Loc: Munich , Germany; Posts: 1682, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: noone1

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

noone1:
Eh, not sure that it's that great of a deal. 72K Euro after 3 years? Think you'd do better owning it outright with the freedom to sell at any given time.

Owning would only be beneficial in this example if you get a price of more than 148.000 € after 3 years, given the MSRP incl. options is 220.000, - €. I would highly doubt this.

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Oct 14, 2016 7:12:22 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Conny997

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

Conny997:
noone1:
Eh, not sure that it's that great of a deal. 72K Euro after 3 years? Think you'd do better owning it outright with the freedom to sell at any given time.

Owning would only be beneficial in this example if you get a price of more than 148.000 € after 3 years, given the MSRP incl. options is 220.000, - €. I would highly doubt this.

Smiley I do not understand why Americans always think that lease deals in Germany are bad. They are excellent (often), they are fully tax deductible and they take away the risk of selling the car with a huge loss. Smiley

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Oct 14, 2016 7:15:52 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Conny997

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

Conny997:
noone1:
Eh, not sure that it's that great of a deal. 72K Euro after 3 years? Think you'd do better owning it outright with the freedom to sell at any given time.

Owning would only be beneficial in this example if you get a price of more than 148.000 € after 3 years, given the MSRP incl. options is 220.000, - €. I would highly doubt this.

I actually got mine for 172k (as far as I remember Smiley ), so getting 148k for it after three years would be highly unlikely.

I have a four year lease and I plan to buy the car for under 90k Smiley after the four years, unless I decide to go for the 960 (which should be available around 2020)... Smiley

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Oct 14, 2016 8:18:20 AM

bridggar: Veteran; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 1223, Gallery; Registered on: May 25, 2007; Reply to: RC

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

With all due respect, you won't keep this car for four years.....

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Oct 14, 2016 9:05:37 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: bridggar

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

bridggar:
With all due respect, you won't keep this car for four years.....

I will...never loved a car that much like this one. Smiley

Only if Audi puts a R8 GT on the market (similar to Huracan Performante), I could get weak and I already have an agreement with my dealer how to handle this if I want to switch but right now, I plan to keep the R8 for four years...until the 960 shows up (this was actually the "plan" behind the four years lease). After I know how the 960 will be, I will decide if I go for it...or if I buy the R8.

I have driven over 7000 km in my R8...in only four months and this is a weekend car, not a daily driver.

Amazing fun, never have been that attached to or attracted by a car and I have driven many different cars.

The R8 just tickles all my senses, it is difficult to explain but I do not get bored with it. Smiley

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Oct 14, 2016 9:27:05 AM

J.Seven: Rennteam Master; Loc: Estoril , Portugal; Posts: 3201, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 16, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

RC:
bridggar:
With all due respect, you won't keep this car for four years.....

I will..
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Smiley Smiley Smiley

When the Aventador will be in your garage within two years , then I believe you´ll keep the Lambo at least two or three years Smiley Smiley
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Oct 14, 2016 10:38:40 AM

noone1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Los Angeles , United States; Posts: 5587, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 20, 2009; Reply to: RC

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

RC:
Conny997:
noone1:
Eh, not sure that it's that great of a deal. 72K Euro after 3 years? Think you'd do better owning it outright with the freedom to sell at any given time.

Owning would only be beneficial in this example if you get a price of more than 148.000 € after 3 years, given the MSRP incl. options is 220.000, - €. I would highly doubt this.

I do not understand why Americans always think that lease deals in Germany are bad. They are excellent (often), they are fully tax deductible and they take away the risk of selling the car with a huge loss.

You can write off 100% of the cost of any leased car in Germany? There is no cap?

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Oct 14, 2016 10:53:21 AM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6920, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: noone1

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

noone1:
RC:
Conny997:
noone1:
Eh, not sure that it's that great of a deal. 72K Euro after 3 years? Think you'd do better owning it outright with the freedom to sell at any given time.

Owning would only be beneficial in this example if you get a price of more than 148.000 € after 3 years, given the MSRP incl. options is 220.000, - €. I would highly doubt this.

I do not understand why Americans always think that lease deals in Germany are bad. They are excellent (often), they are fully tax deductible and they take away the risk of selling the car with a huge loss.

You can write off 100% of the cost of any leased car in Germany? There is no cap?

Are you not into supporting your troops or Germany? What a Trump move to use a deduction! What is next? Using the r8 to grab pussy? Just talking about it makes me feel dirty.

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Oct 14, 2016 11:51:36 AM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: noone1

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

noone1:
RC:
Conny997:
noone1:
Eh, not sure that it's that great of a deal. 72K Euro after 3 years? Think you'd do better owning it outright with the freedom to sell at any given time.

Owning would only be beneficial in this example if you get a price of more than 148.000 € after 3 years, given the MSRP incl. options is 220.000, - €. I would highly doubt this.

I do not understand why Americans always think that lease deals in Germany are bad. They are excellent (often), they are fully tax deductible and they take away the risk of selling the car with a huge loss.

You can write off 100% of the cost of any leased car in Germany? There is no cap?

Pretty much yes but it depends on how much you use the car for the business and what kind of car and business this is.

It is a bit difficult to write off a R8 completely if you work in my business but I can imagine it is possible if you work in the car business, depending on what you do and what you need the car for.

We discussed this whole deduction thing in a separate thread a long time ago...

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Oct 14, 2016 12:27:19 PM

bluelines: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Argovia , Switzerland; Posts: 11655, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: bridggar

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

bridggar:
With all due respect, you won't keep this car for four years.....

Smiley

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Oct 14, 2016 12:37:00 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: J.Seven

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

J.Seven:

When the Aventador will be in your garage within two years , then I believe you´ll keep the Lambo at least two or three years

Aventador is impossible...unless I win the lottery or my Apple stock makes an unexpected jump...by 50%. Smiley Also, Germany is not a place for an Aventador, at least not where I live, I explained that often. Also, the current Aventador gearbox is actually something I really don't like on this car. Drive one and you'll understand.

R8 GT (equal to Huracan Performante)? Maybe. Since I do not track my cars often (anymore), I need a good road car. If the R8 GT only has 30 hp more and 50 kg less weight and straight line performance is basically the same as on my R8, I won't get it. If the R8 GT does 0-200 kph a second faster and 0-300 kph 3-4 seconds faster, I'm in if the price is right.

Would love to get the Huracan Performante but this car will be really expensive and hardcore (as far as I heard). Also, similar to the Aventador...my social environment...not really a good idea to get a Huracan.

So I'm afraid I am going to stick to my R8 for the whole four years, this was the plan from the start, to have a car until the 960 arrives. Don't forget that this could be also the time the R8 successor arrives or at least I will know how it looks like, so I can make a decision.

Right now, there are not many cars on the market I am interested in (675LT, Aventador SV...both out of my financial league). The 991 GT2 RS is tempting, from various points of view but I think I got addicted to that V10 engine and it will be difficult to switch to something else. This includes the 960.

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Oct 14, 2016 1:26:29 PM

Enmanuel: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Boston , United States; Posts: 8842, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2008; Reply to: bluelines

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

bluelines:
bridggar:
With all due respect, you won't keep this car for four years.....

Sorry Christian but I'm gonna have to jump in this bandwagon too. Smiley

or hey maybe you will just to prove to us you can make it to the end of a lease Smiley

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Oct 14, 2016 1:53:14 PM

Paulo_Rangel_Melo: Expert; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 1528, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2003; Reply to: Enmanuel

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Hey Rc. This may be offtopic but...any news on the new generation 911 (992?)?

Regards

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Oct 14, 2016 2:02:34 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Enmanuel

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Like I said before, I have an agreement with my dealer if the R8 GT shows up but to be honest, I cannot see myself part ways with my R8, I just love this car too much. It is everything I was always looking in a car. Only thing I don't like is that it isn't a Lamborghini but I also know that I cannot "afford" having one where I live. I have no issues with my R8 being "only" an Audi but I just like the Huracan design a tiny bit better.

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Oct 14, 2016 2:03:47 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Paulo_Rangel_Melo

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
Hey Rc. This may be offtopic but...any news on the new generation 911 (992?)?

Regards

2019...this is all I know. Smiley

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Oct 15, 2016 12:56:35 AM

Gladstone: Expert; Loc: Kansas City, MO , United States; Posts: 1813, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 27, 2008; Reply to: RC

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RC:
no issues with my R8 being "only" an Audi but I just like the Huracan design a tiny bit better.

That makes one of us! I find the Audi design immeasurably preferable to the Huracan. Smiley

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Oct 15, 2016 11:31:44 AM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6920, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: Gladstone

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Agreed. I sat in and started a Huracan in Chicago but I would not want to be seen in it actually driving it. Way too 'look at me'. Whoopsy can pull this off but not me.

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Oct 15, 2016 12:21:47 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Leawood911

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Leawood911:
Agreed. I sat in and started a Huracan in Chicago but I would not want to be seen in it actually driving it. Way too 'look at me'. Whoopsy can pull this off but not me.

Same here, this is why I drive the R8.

Btw: My McLaren neighbor just drove by my house and he drove a Huracan. Seems that he made his decision (he was torn between the Huracan and R8) but I didn't pay attention to his license plate, so maybe it was just a test car.

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Oct 15, 2016 1:03:53 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: RC

Re: Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017 model) - Short Review

Test car, he hasn't decided yet.

My son (before he saw the car outside): "Daddy, I heard a R8 somewhere in the neighborhood!" LOL

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Oct 15, 2016 1:31:28 PM

Conny997: Expert; Loc: Munich , Germany; Posts: 1682, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: RC

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.. it seems to be a testcar, isn't it?

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Oct 15, 2016 2:50:52 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59580, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Conny997

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Conny997:
.. it seems to be a testcar, isn't it?

Yes, test car...I thought he decided already and got himself the Huracan but he didn't.

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Oct 15, 2016 10:45:30 PM

Enmanuel: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Boston , United States; Posts: 8842, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2008; Reply to: RC

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Man I love this car.

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