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    Jun 17, 2005 6:17:10 PM

    MKW
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    Re: Ferrari/Maserati news

    Since some US Ferrari owners complain that it takes weeks to get some work done as it is, what will their service experience be like when some of these " cottage " level dealerships have to deal with higher sales and service volumes of entry Ferrari and dumbed down but more affordable Maseratis ?
    Porsche demanded and most US Porsche dealers complied with expanded dealership service bays ( more became stand alone, too ) and remodeling before the Cayenne arrived .

    Jun 17, 2005 7:55:17 PM

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    Re: Ferrari/Maserati news

    That is something that you Ferrari owners can conplaint directly to Ferrari.

    Maybe they will expand when Alfa Romeo comes to the US.

    Mike S, you can arrive to what i said just by reading the news on www.italiaspeed.com, they are pretty well informed about the Uniair, newDino,F60 v12 800ps with uniair etc etc... or if you understand italian autopareri.com

    Jun 17, 2005 8:08:42 PM

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    Re: Ferrari/Maserati news

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    As long as Ferrari's dealer practices remain unaltered (think LONG waiting lists and significant markupus over MSRP), I don't think Porsche has anything to worry about.



    The waiting list isn't going to be that long...at least, not as long as the F430. It simple economics, the more cars Ferrari makes, the less demand there will be.

    So, unless the $100k sports car market continues to grow, which I doubt BTW, this car will eat the 911's lunch!



    Place your bets now. This Ferrari will show who the real posers are. For $100K to $120K (you KNOW there's going to be big markups), you can have a 500hp 997 Turbo or a 400hp California. "Eating the 911's lunch"? - I don't think so.



    You need to think ahead! By the time this car rolls out, it will be compteing against the standard 911, not the turbo. At that time the turbo will seling for more than $150k. Getting the picture yet?



    You're grip on this is like Jessica Simpson's understanding of String Theory. How do you know for sure what the Turbo will be selling for? We'll see what kind of compromises Ferrari has to make to produce a car that will sell for 40% less than the 430. Porsche has been building cars at this price level for years. Ferrari has much to prove to be taken seriously at this price level but I'm sure the first few years can sell purely on the brand name - just like the Boxster did for Porsche. Btw, what did you mean by "eat the 911's lunch?" - cannibalize all of its sales? outperform it? You're not being too clear.

    Jun 17, 2005 8:54:50 PM

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    Re: Ferrari/Maserati news

    I dont think that Ferrari wants to compete with Porche i think that the price il be a lot higher, besides that the real big competitor for the 911 it will be the Alfa romeo Brera.

    Jun 17, 2005 11:09:04 PM

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    Re: Ferrari/Maserati news

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    Mike S, you can arrive to what i said just by reading the news on www.italiaspeed.com, they are pretty well informed about the Uniair, newDino,F60 v12 800ps with uniair etc etc... or if you understand italian autopareri.com



    thank you for the link rosso!

    Jun 18, 2005 12:51:20 AM

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    Re: Ferrari/Maserati news

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    Btw, what did you mean by "eat the 911's lunch?" - cannibalize all of its sales? outperform it? You're not being too clear.



    I mean, you'll see a sharp decline in 911 sales that will coincide with the release of the "California" or whatever they're going to call it.
     
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