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    2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    The propsed changes are below, taken from dailyf1.com.
    Wondering how the change in gearbox, to a foot actuated mechanical clutch and driver operated gear shift will affect Ferrari's and anyone else's street product.

    ENGINES

    All components of the engine will be controlled by an Electronic Control Unit (ECU) which has been manufactured by an FIA designated supplier to an agreed specification
    The ECU may only be used with FIA approved software and may only be connected to the control system wiring loom, sensors and actuators as specified by the FIA
    All control sensors, actuators and FIA monitoring sensors will be specified and homologated by the FIA
    The control system wiring loom connectivity will be specified by the FIA
    A 3 litre V10 engine will remain an option for teams unable to obtain a 2.4 litre V8, but subject to similar strict performance limitations as in 2006 and 2007

    Reasons

    to eliminate the use of driver aids such as traction control
    as teams will not be able to develop their own ECUs, expenditure on electronics will be considerably reduced
    to allow the FIA to check testing mileage and other elements
    to keep engine costs low for the smaller independent teams

    GEARBOXES

    All cars will be fitted with gear ratios, final drive ratios and differentials which have been manufactured by an FIA designated supplier to an agreed specification
    Gear changing will only be permitted by the use of a manually operated mechanical linkage to the gearbox
    Clutches will only be operated via a foot pedal connected mechanically to a release mechanism

    Reasons

    to restore control over the clutch and gear changing to the driver
    the use of standard gearbox internals will result in a very significant reduction in expenditure

    BODYWORK

    Downforce will be reduced to approximately 10% of current levels
    Drag will be maintained at current levels
    Overall car width will be increased
    By stipulating maximum and minimum dimensions cars will be "cleaned up" with devices such as barge boards, flip ups, winglets and other small add on parts removed
    Total advertising area on the car to remain unchanged

    Reasons

    to reduce the reliance upon downforce as a means of improving performance
    by increasing mechanical grip the likelihood of one car being able to follow another closely in corners, and hence be in an attacking position at the end of the following straight, will be increased
    eliminating winglets, bargeboards, etc, will reduce costs as well as the danger of debris on the circuits
    drag should remain unchanged in order to ensure straight line speeds do not increase significantly

    WHEELS AND TYRES

    Tyres will be supplied by one manufacturer appointed by the FIA after an invitation to tender. Such an appointment will be conditional upon :
    a suitable supplier being available ;
    a suitable system to ensure tyre testing is carried out in an equitable manner ;
    no team being disadvantaged by the appointment of a single supplier (detailed regulations will be written to ensure this would not be the case) ;
    there being no legal impediments during the process of appointing a supplier
    Slick tyres will be introduced for use in dry weather
    Lower profile tyres will be introduced
    Significantly larger wheels with minimum and maximum sizes stipulated for front and rear will be permitted
    Tyre blankets and other heating devices will be prohibited
    All tyre regulations will reside in the Technical Regulations

    Reasons

    a single supplier would allow a bigger safety margin
    the absence of competitive tyre testing would reduce costs
    as relatively small differences in tyre compound and construction can have a significant effect on lap times, a single tyre supplier would simply ensure that no team would be adversely affected by being contracted to the "wrong" supplier
    slick tyres would be re-introduced as a part of the low- downforce and high-mechanical-grip package
    lower profile tyres would be introduced in order to give the wheels and tyres a more modern look and also permit more freedom on brakes and suspension
    a ban on tyre heating devices would eliminate this significant but unnecessary expenditure

    CHASSIS

    The minimum height of the centre of gravity of the chassis will be specified
    The minimum weight for a chassis will be specified
    Energy of all impact tests will be increased
    Loads for all static tests will be increased
    Side intrusion test requirements will be increased
    Ballast will be reduced to minimal levels

    Reasons

    to ensure that weight is distributed throughout the chassis
    the centre of gravity requirement should result in less pure ballast being used, the minimum weight will have to be achieved by the construction of a stronger chassis
    by raising the impact test speeds, the static load criteria on structures such as roll hoops and increasing the penetration resistance, drivers will be even better protected than they are at present

    BRAKES

    All cars will be fitted with brake discs, pads and callipers which have been manufactured by an FIA designated supplier to an agreed specification

    Reason

    to reduce the cost of continual development of new materials and designs, the FIA specified products will be designed to work on all types of track and last an entire Grand Prix weekend

    DATA ACQUISITION AND TELEMETRY

    With specific exceptions, any data acquisition system, telemetry system or associated sensors additional to those associated with the ECU will be physically separate and completely isolated from the control electronics
    Pit to car telemetry will be prohibited

    Reasons

    to ensure that any data acquisition system used by a team cannot interfere with the FIA specified ECU and sensors
    to ensure teams are unable to send messages to a car and potentially affect its performance

    MATERIALS

    Limitations, similar to those within the 2006 engine regulations, will be imposed on all parts of the car

    Reason

    costs will be reduced as research into exotic materials will be unnecessary

    STARTER

    All cars will be equipped with a driver operated starter which is capable of starting the car without outside assistance a minimum number of times

    Reasons

    to simplify the operation of starting a car, at present it is massively complex
    to give the driver a chance of starting a car unaided in the event of it stopping on the track
    to reduce the number of personnel needed at an Event and hence reduce costs

    NOTICE OF CHANGE

    Notice periods for changing the rules will be related to the effect (if any) of a change on the design of a car rather than an artificial distinction between "sporting" and "technical" regulations. There will no longer be a distinction between changes to the engine, transmission or chassis.

    Reason

    to ensure that changes may be made to the regulations in a timely and more realistic way

    SPARE CARS

    Spare cars will be prohibited, i.e. no team may have more than two built-up cars available at an Event at any one time. Spare chassis will be permitted but precisely what constitutes a car in this context will be clearly defined

    Reason

    by taking one car less to races teams will be able to save considerable sums of money as, apart from the cost of the car itself, fewer personnel will be needed

    TESTING

    Testing will be limited to 30000km per team between 1st January and 31st December, subject to a single tyre supplier being appointed

    Reason

    To reduce the enormous amounts of money currently being spent on testing

    CAR ACQUISITION

    Teams will be free to buy a complete car or any part of a car from another constructor
    How constructor's points are to be allocated will be clearly defined after further discussion

    Reason

    to enable a team to buy a complete car, or any part of a car, from another constructor. As a result teams will be able to save considerable sums of money on the design and development of their cars.

    E.A.
    Source FIA

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    That's great news about the paddle shifters - now maybe Ferrari and BMW will get rid of those in their sports cars...

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    I agree, manual gearboxes along with no traction controls would favor more the driver factor in F1, which has been pushed more and more out of F1.

    And one tire manufaturer would decrease costs, make the championship tire brand independant, improve safety, and would bring slicks back again.

    Also decreasing downforce will enable more overtaking.

    Limited testing miles will level the field a bit more with the higher budget teams vs lower budget teams, and favor engineering ability in development over a big check book.

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    Overall, I'm disappointed that they're limiting the performance of the F1 cars so much. F1 is supposed to represent the absolute pinnacle of technology and performance (without regard to cost or competition). Now other series like CART or IRL will have faster cars - I don't like that...

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    I am glad to se that they adapted my reccomendations

    Drivers will no longer need to spend hours and hours
    reading through 200 page manuals to learn all the combinations and pertubations of electronics actuated
    on the steering wheel.

    A lot of control will go back to the driver and away fron
    the software engineers and team minders. I am also glad to see that they are increasing the safety factors for the drivers.

    Manual Clutch? Will make starts interesting!

    Manual clutch will also make Ferrari F430 owners sad

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    Quote:
    Grant said:
    Overall, I'm disappointed that they're limiting the performance of the F1 cars so much. F1 is supposed to represent the absolute pinnacle of technology and performance (without regard to cost or competition). Now other series like CART or IRL will have faster cars - I don't like that...



    I agree. As a technical person, one of the main things that originally attracted me to F1 and kept me as a fan has been the technical superiority. The rules actually sound like their moving more towards an old F3000 spec. Seems like every one of the FIA's supposed cost controlling moves has actually increased spending.

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    Quote:
    Grant said:
    Overall, I'm disappointed that they're limiting the performance of the F1 cars so much. F1 is supposed to represent the absolute pinnacle of technology and performance (without regard to cost or competition). Now other series like CART or IRL will have faster cars - I don't like that...



    I don't think that those suggested changes like the ludicrous FIA standard ECU's and such will ever make it into F1. The ones I mentioned will not overall affect performance (slicks will make them faster, 10% downforce will be compensated with development like the 20% decrease dowforce of this year was compensated and cars are still faster even with one-race tires, gearbox will be relatively small effect in the whole scheme of things, etc.) thats why I like them.

    I'm with you, they need to decrease costs but not decrese performance like using only one tire brand. Also at the same time they need to promote more overtaking in F1. You should have seen the first laps of last weeks MotoGP

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    Will there still be an F1 in 2008? Cough, GPWC, cough

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    Quote:
    JimFlat6 said:Manual clutch will also make Ferrari F430 owners sad


    Not the few who were brave enough to order the sweet gated 6-speed

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    The real question in this day and age is this : Does a racing fan root for a driver or a manufacturer and do you tip it one way or another . No different from professional sports like soccer or baseball . Some live and die for a hometown team, other's root for whichever team their " hero " happens to play for on any given year .

    Problem for F1, is that other than Ferrari, no one has a decades long love affairs with one marque nor is there the cult of personality in this day of carefully managed , puposefully bland robotron drivers.

    F1 being so global, are fans really into " Alonso " vs " Shuey " as much as Asians rooting for Toyota or Honda vs Germans rooting for McLaren/Mercedes or Williams BMW , tifosi or casual fans rooting for the Ferrari brand etc. After all , the bucks come from the marketing of all these global car companies and their suppliers and assorted tech and finance firms . The drivers, though well paid , can move around . If it all comes down to drivers and " spec " cars , the manufacturers then feel like money throwing rubes at the mercy of a controling owner , like they do in NASCAR with the France family .
    In NASCAR, fans root for a car " number " not a car manufacturer and it's hired driver , since they know the cars are all " spec". Is this what Bernie has in store for an improved F1 "show" , cutting the manufacturers knees out in the name of " controlling costs " ? Very clever of him.

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    Now that Ferrari was making their owns ECUs they want to make one ECu for everybody!? ...but probably its the only way to ensure that no one is cheating.

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    What are they doing?????

    Why don't they just make F1 foot powered?? Flinstones style... All of this is very sad...

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    F1 used to be the pinnacle of motorsport...

    Greg A

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    Quote:
    assman!!! said:
    What are they doing?????

    Why don't they just make F1 foot powered?? Flinstones style... All of this is very sad...



    lol

    Don't know if Alonso's feet can reach the ground though

    Re: 2008 F1 Rule Change Gearbox among other things

    Quote:
    shin said:
    Will there still be an F1 in 2008? Cough, GPWC, cough



    I think you have a point here

     
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