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    Jun 6, 2005 9:07:33 PM

    GnilM
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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    what do you mean it is a kit car? my noble was delivered totally built. plus the elise doesn't have the presence the noble does! i've driven past guys in they're elises and they almost break their necks trying to see what the hell it is i'm driving



    My brother's Lotus Exige has 290 HP ( compressor) and is very impressive and fast . 0 to 100 km/h in 4.1 s Would it beat the Noble..?

    Jun 6, 2005 9:08:46 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    gnil said:
    Quote:
    Mike S said:
    what do you mean it is a kit car? my noble was delivered totally built. plus the elise doesn't have the presence the noble does! i've driven past guys in they're elises and they almost break their necks trying to see what the hell it is i'm driving



    My brother's Lotus Exige has 290 HP ( compressor) and is very impressive and fast . 0 to 100 km/h in 4.1 s Would it beat the Noble..?



    sorry...made a mistake, not 290 HP but 260 HP

    Jun 6, 2005 9:49:34 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    gnil said:My brother's Lotus Exige has 290 HP ( compressor) and is very impressive and fast . 0 to 100 km/h in 4.1 s Would it beat the Noble..?


    The Noble M400 does 0-60 in 3.3 secs...

    Jun 7, 2005 5:12:28 AM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

    i'm going to go make a clip of the noble pulling away from standstill, you can make your own decision

    Jun 7, 2005 11:29:58 AM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    gnil said:My brother's Lotus Exige has 290 HP ( compressor) and is very impressive and fast . 0 to 100 km/h in 4.1 s Would it beat the Noble..?


    The Noble M400 does 0-60 in 3.3 secs...



    Nothing more to say after that figure... exept the huge price difference

    Jun 7, 2005 10:08:46 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    i'm going to go make a clip of the noble pulling away from standstill, you can make your own decision



    Looking forward to that

    Jun 9, 2005 7:50:33 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

    Why is the original post a choice between a 4wd Porsche and a Noble? Surely a Carrera S is more similar in spirit to a Noble than a 4wd version?

    Jun 10, 2005 5:18:12 AM

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    very true, hahaha i never realised they were talking about the 4s

    Jun 11, 2005 4:58:55 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    i'm going to go make a clip of the noble pulling away from standstill, you can make your own decision



    Looking forward to that



    as promised, video of the noble pulling away

    Noble Pulling Away

    Jun 11, 2005 5:23:27 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    Mike S said:
    Quote:
    med said:
    Quote:
    Mike S said:
    i'm going to go make a clip of the noble pulling away from standstill, you can make your own decision



    Looking forward to that



    as promised, video of the noble pulling away

    Noble Pulling Away



    Awsome Mike,,

    Did I detect a little wheel spin between gear changes 1 and 2..

    Thanks..

    throt.

    Jun 11, 2005 5:44:14 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    as promised, video of the noble pulling away

    Noble Pulling Away



    Thanks for sharing Mike... that is certainly a fast!

    Jun 11, 2005 6:14:48 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

    @throt: yes the car doesn't not have traction control, but the wheelspin is very minor as you can see, it's suspension setup and mid-engine layout helps out a lot

    @carlos: always welcome! it would be a bit faster with the right octane fuel and if it were down at sea level!!

    Jun 11, 2005 6:16:39 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    @throt: yes the car doesn't not have traction control, but the wheelspin is very minor as you can see, it's suspension setup and mid-engine layout helps out a lot

    @carlos: always welcome! it would be a bit faster with the right octane fuel and if it were down at sea level!!



    Yes must say , " it went like a rocket " ..

    Looks a good fun tool..

    throt.

    Jun 11, 2005 7:02:12 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

    Sweet - so fast that it looks like the tape is speeded up

    Jun 11, 2005 7:20:00 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

    lol yes it's gears are short for the first 4 for tight twisty tracks, but the remaining 2 are much longer for highway cruising!

    Jun 11, 2005 7:45:43 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    lol yes it's gears are short for the first 4 for tight twisty tracks, but the remaining 2 are much longer for highway cruising!



    Thanks Mike, enjoyed that...thanks for taking the trouble

    Jun 11, 2005 8:32:04 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

    Man alive your car looks like a missile. I have driven one before and loved it and if it wasn't my abject fear of Britsh cars and their build quality I would probably have one like a shot. Unfortunately my Elise was a bag of [censored] and has put me off all Brit cars.

    Jun 11, 2005 9:01:05 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

    thanks jjr1

    it seems you got a "dud" elise, someone i know has an elise and he seems pretty happy with his, he says the build quality is obviously not up there with everybody else, but it hasn't given him any serious problems..

    Jun 12, 2005 12:34:12 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

    my brother loves his Exige , before owned an Elise..some little problems ( nothing major) it's very normal on a British car...
    I try to make him switch to a GT3 but he says nothing beats his 260 HP Exige around a twisted( slow) trac and would not change it for anything else.
    Mike, thanks for your vid ..

    Jun 12, 2005 4:51:48 PM

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    Re: In Europe - Noble M14 - no contest

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    thanks jjr1

    it seems you got a "dud" elise, someone i know has an elise and he seems pretty happy with his, he says the build quality is obviously not up there with everybody else, but it hasn't given him any serious problems..



    Mine had oil starvation twice while on track so I guess I did use it quite hard.

    To be fair my mate has one at the moment and his has 40,000 miles or more on it and it hardly ever gives him any problems.

    Now that the Elise comes with a Toyota engine I would love to see how well it goes.

    i also tried a TVR Sagaris the other day and despite all the acclaim by the motoring press it does have one significant failing. If you push it hard over a bumpy road the rear will ground out not only recking the underneath but potentially a danger as well. Shame because it looks awesome.
     
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