Ok then, so, the times that are posted are true or not?  If they're not true compared to what they wrote, then where did they come from?  The weight being 46kg difference is pretty close to the 50kg difference they advertised, so thats okay. But the tires...did they say what was wrong or did they just leave it vague?  If i recall, the n-ring time was set on next-gen or corsas I think.  I do remember them saying their simulations would net about a 7:10, even though they ended up doing 6:59 (thanks to driver's skill), so a 7:13 isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things I think So then which time did they get on hockenheim?  1:07 or 1:09?  But still though, setting the time with trofeo r's is nothing to be ashamed of.