Panamera, 991 and Boxster/Cayman have already crossed the ridiculous price line. Cayenne turbo and turbo S are getting there. The only reasonable priced model is the Macan. I have said it many times, just look at used prices. They are basically unchanged for 10 years yet MSRP is up to the moon. Plus Porsches are getting more generic as the competition gears up. I would never get a Panamera as a sedan at these prices, it makes no sense vs a class S or an S8 or RS6 or a Tesla S. To be a niche product the Panamera needs to be a Ferrari FF competitor (BTW the rumor is the Lusso will come in V8TT soon, maybe shedding the V12 entirely). Right now it is far from it.