Yes, there was a user here a couple of years ago, who put a deposit on the 360 replacement (the 430) and was the dirst in line at his dealer. So low and behold, the F430 comes out and he had mysteryously been bumped to the bottom of the waiting list. Just not worth it for a car. I've got a better idea. For the extra 80k they want for a 430 in SoCal, buy a small cottage in Germany, along with a 430 and keep it there for vacations.