RC - I believe what mc3744 is doing is simply giving it too much throttle in slick conditions. Even the quickest traction control would slip the tires for a bit and then take away the gas/brake the correct corner etc. Your suggestion to use less throttle makes the most sense. Do not expect the car to save your bacon 100% of the time (or even 10%). The Turbo must still be respected even in the dry. Just because all the safety nets are on and working does not negate the laws of physics.