nberry:

Iain, you have every right to gloat.Smiley

The 458 really has raised the bar. I have yet to read a review where some other sport car was preferred over the 458. Of course, the assumption is Ferrari is providing an honest car.

Given their history, one cannot be sure. They have gained a tremendous amount of information for their sport cars as a result of their F1 program. In the process, they also gained a great deal of information as to how to mask modifications to enhance performance.Smiley


You forgot about their GT program, or the GTE class. the 430 has been racing 997s for years and the overall  win ratio between the two is preaty much equal.