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Carlos from Spain said:... frankly I'm disappointed, have they made it too GT-ish?


Need to wait for the F430CS Hopefully, this time with 6-spd manual option...



Not one reviewer has found the 430 too GT-ish. What is at work here is Saurma not knowing how to drive a Ferrari and his inward bias of Porsche. He knows Porsche's and can handle them.

More importantly, Hurst raised several issues which go to the heart of whether Ring times are worth measuring in judging performance. To obtain excellent times on the Ring requires the confluence of so many variables that a driver in the same car on the same day can have a 10 sec. difference in Ring times.

Also the set up of the car for a substantial sub-8 min. time would not be conducive to regular road use.Some writers are on record stating that any car which does the Ring in under 8 min. is not a road worthy car.

Carlos, the 430 is a dog and why don't we leave it at that. Porsche's rule the Ring and the sport car world. We poor 430 owners will drive around with a bag over our heads in shame.