getting back on topic , i owned a 360 and it was a dog performance wise , looked great and sounded great.my CS is great looking , great sounding but to me needs more torque to make it truely great. my GT3 and GT2 are great performance cars and finally my 430 is a great car looks wise and performance wise. 430 owners need to thank lambo or audi for bringing out the gallardo . it made ferrari sit up and take notice and bring out such a great car as what the 430 now is. it's funny that porsche have always made cars that are a little quicker than ferrari .i assume the guys at ferrari were never really bothered about it . i think they see a real threat in lambo taking business away from them for the first time . ferrari have had the capabilites to produce great cars but they haven't had to until now as they thought they didn't have descent opposition . are ferraris twice the price because they are twice as good as porsches . of course not . so why do people buy ferraris ? i don't know