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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Whoopsy:
     Is it because Piech caught a cold again testing the prototype so they had to do a high volume low velocity system? 

    Couldnt agree more Smiley


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    I saw the display for real yesterday at the Geneva auto show on the TT and I was impressed with all the display possibilities you can have . On a car like the TT ( not a family car ) it is a very good solution .


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Gnil:

    I saw the display for real yesterday at the Geneva auto show on the TT and I was impressed with all the display possibilities you can have . On a car like the TT ( not a family car ) it is a very good solution .

    So why not remove the passenger seat too? It would save weight. Smiley

    Mercedes has a much better solution in my opinion. Audi isn't thinking it through. Why limit a car when you can actually have more customers by not doing it? The TT is no GT3 where people could complaint about the lack of sportiness or whatever crap if Porsche would add a rear seat option.

    Speaking of rear seats: As far as I heard, the next BMW X6 gets three seats in the rear instead of the current two. BMW learns from mistakes, others still need to make mistakes to be able to learn from them afterwards. 


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Gnil:

    I saw the display for real yesterday at the Geneva auto show on the TT and I was impressed with all the display possibilities you can have . On a car like the TT ( not a family car ) it is a very good solution .

     

    I actually got to play with it at the CES in January. The possibility is nice, but the lost of 50% real estate is huge. But I can see this being the perfect solution to a bike, not a car.

     


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    RC:
    Gnil:

    I saw the display for real yesterday at the Geneva auto show on the TT and I was impressed with all the display possibilities you can have . On a car like the TT ( not a family car ) it is a very good solution .

    So why not remove the passenger seat too? It would save weight. Smiley

    Lamborghini has done that!


    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Whoopsy:
    I actually got to play with it at the CES in January. The possibility is nice, but the lost of 50% real estate is huge. But I can see this being the perfect solution to a bike, not a car.

     

    I don't understand the '' 50% real estate loss ''  ??  ( my english is not good enough )


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Gnil:
    Whoopsy:
    I actually got to play with it at the CES in January. The possibility is nice, but the lost of 50% real estate is huge. But I can see this being the perfect solution to a bike, not a car.

     

    I don't understand the '' 50% real estate loss ''  ??  ( my english is not good enough )

    50%* loss of display area for information, so less information available at a glance for the driver. Instead you have to fiddle with controls to change what's displayed so you can see it, which equals more distraction for the driver, so less safe than having it all visible at once, making it a poor design decision. Imagine they did this in the cockpit of the plane you were to fly in so that the pilot couldn't see the altimeter, inclinometer, airspeed all at once but had to flip through them while he was trying to land.

    * approximate value, looks like more than a 50% loss to me, but, either way, it's a significant loss.


    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    apias:
    Gnil:
    Whoopsy:
    I actually got to play with it at the CES in January. The possibility is nice, but the lost of 50% real estate is huge. But I can see this being the perfect solution to a bike, not a car.

     

    I don't understand the '' 50% real estate loss ''  ??  ( my english is not good enough )

    50%* loss of display area for information, so less information available at a glance for the driver. Instead you have to fiddle with controls to change what's displayed so you can see it, which equals more distraction for the driver, so less safe than having it all visible at once, making it a poor design decision. Imagine they did this in the cockpit of the plane you were to fly in so that the pilot couldn't see the altimeter, inclinometer, airspeed all at once but had to flip through them while he was trying to land.

    * approximate value, looks like more than a 50% loss to me, but, either way, it's a significant loss.

     

    That.

    Also, in normal cars we run the navigation maps on the secondary centre console display, we can take quick glances there. In this new TT there will be no more quick glances, needs to flip display.


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Whoopsy:

    That.

    Also, in normal cars we run the navigation maps on the secondary centre console display, we can take quick glances there. In this new TT there will be no more quick glances, needs to flip display.

    Plus, peering at complex visual data, like a map, through a steering wheel that itself may be in motion makes it very difficult to comprehend, so you will end up spending a lot more time looking at it. Someone earlier mentioned WiFi and connected devices, which is also a horrible solution when there is only the driver in the car, trying to drive safely while juggling a tablet to view nav info.


    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Whoopsy:
    apias:
    Gnil:
    Whoopsy:
    I actually got to play with it at the CES in January. The possibility is nice, but the lost of 50% real estate is huge. But I can see this being the perfect solution to a bike, not a car.

     

    I don't understand the '' 50% real estate loss ''  ??  ( my english is not good enough )

    50%* loss of display area for information, so less information available at a glance for the driver. Instead you have to fiddle with controls to change what's displayed so you can see it, which equals more distraction for the driver, so less safe than having it all visible at once, making it a poor design decision. Imagine they did this in the cockpit of the plane you were to fly in so that the pilot couldn't see the altimeter, inclinometer, airspeed all at once but had to flip through them while he was trying to land.

    * approximate value, looks like more than a 50% loss to me, but, either way, it's a significant loss.

     

    That.

    Also, in normal cars we run the navigation maps on the secondary centre console display, we can take quick glances there. In this new TT there will be no more quick glances, needs to flip display.

    But I saw on the display that you could have the map as a main feature and have small speedos on the bottom right and left  of the display . So you actually still have all the informations.


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Gnil:
    But I saw on the display that you could have the map as a main feature and have small speedos on the bottom right and left  of the display . So you actually still have all the informations.

     

    Yes, and those primary function gauges become smaller in order to share space...........................

    Taking out the centre console screen could work if they move the speedo and rpm to a head up display. Those stuff are of no use to passenger, so it will only be shown to the driver.


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Whoopsy:
    Gnil:
    But I saw on the display that you could have the map as a main feature and have small speedos on the bottom right and left  of the display . So you actually still have all the informations.

     

    Yes, and those primary function gauges become smaller in order to share space...........................

    Taking out the centre console screen could work if they move the speedo and rpm to a head up display. Those stuff are of no use to passenger, so it will only be shown to the driver.

    My son would disagree with you. Smiley  Smiley

    I really think some of the engineers and designers are idiots (or they aren't married and/or have kids).

    Yes, the new speedo cluster looks great but why remove the information display from the middle console completely? At least there should be an option.

    Like I said before: I will not buy a car without a display in the middle console. NEVER. I just don't want to have to listen to my wife's or kids' complaints why they can't see this and that. No way.


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    One screen less means more profit for Audi/VW kiss


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Milanno:

    One screen less means more profit for Audi/VW kiss

    Smiley Smiley


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    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    I like the new TT.  I would never buy are car for its NAVIGATION or audio features or center console.  I try to avoid that feature if I can because the latest smart phone or $200 Garmin device will run circles against it.  That will be double true every two years.  It is an investment in technology which ages much quicker than the car. Just look at Apple Carplay.   Of course I speak from experiance of keeping cars 7+ years from new.

    In my car there is also a ban on button pushing by passengers except maybe radio stations selection as the signal fades on long drives and I don't hear the static.  That is the only exception I can think of.  If the wife wants to navigate she can use her smart phone and give advice (suggestions, ahem).

     

    Whoopsy - Yes - he caught a cold.  Water with ice in it will do that as well! Smiley

     


    Re: Death of the center console screen at VW?

    Ultimately, they should do something similar to what Ferrari does in some of their cars, where they have an info display for the passenger; but in this case, it would be a second LCD screen in front of the passenger, and minimal controls to go with it, so the passenger can help with navigation or entertainment settings as needed/desired/fought over. Of course, the driver could disable the dual controls if needed, to deal with the latter condition. Problem solved.

    I personally dislike the centrally located screens. I wear vary-focal glasses, and the view to the side through the reading part of the lenses is distorted. So I have to turn my head and look at the screen almost straight on. I would prefer to have everything directly in front of me. 

     


     
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