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    2017 Honda Civic Type R

    Saw one in the flesh during the break. Loved it. Somehow the over abundance of styling features, wings and vents work in the metal.

    Hated it from the pictures.

    Front seats felt superb too, as did the gearbox -- I didn't drive one.

    EVO, Top Gear and CAR all rate it highly.

    Any one driven one, or owns one?

    Not been in to hot hatches for ages, but somehow the Type R is winking very furiously at me.


    Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

    sfo:

    Saw one in the flesh during the break. Loved it. Somehow the over abundance of styling features, wings and vents work in the metal.

    Hated it from the pictures.

    Front seats felt superb too, as did the gearbox -- I didn't drive one.

    EVO, Top Gear and CAR all rate it highly.

    Any one driven one, or owns one?

    Not been in to hot hatches for ages, but somehow the Type R is winking very furiously at me.

    I would have trouble choosing one over Focus RS or Subaru STI, due to FWD.


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    Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

    I read some very high praising  reviews on the Honda. Rating it as the best hot hatch since a long time. 

     


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    Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

    Same view as Grant.  I have just too many memories of terminal understeer in fwd cars, especially in winter conditions.  But - for those in warmer climes who can adapt to fwd hot hatch handling, why not...


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    Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

    Lots of compelling choices in that segment. I think the Civic looks a little busy, but the STi isn’t much better. The lack of AWD is huge IMO though.

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    Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

    apparently Type R has clever diff which (almost) eliminates torque steer ..


    Re: 2017 Honda Civic Type R

    sfo:

    apparently Type R has clever diff which (almost) eliminates torque steer ..

    Torque steer yes, but the harder thing to eliminate is understeer.  Not that AWD cars are without their own understeer tendencies, but you have more options to adjust cornering attitude than you do with FWD.   As I recall some of the Renault hot hatches (FWD) were reviewed as fairly neutral, but at the risk of lift-off oversteer which most car makers do not want to release to the public. 


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