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    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

    You meant E mode is a gutted Tesla? angry


    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

    The farmer:
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    Congratulations! Tasteful car... and also tasteful choice of music. Smiley


    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

    Does anybody know the REAL reason that my Panamera Turbo S hybrid has come afoul of regulatory shenanigans?

    It was produced last Fall and has been sitting in a USA port since October.

    Now, ... PCNA reports that I should NOT expect delivery BEFORE NEXT MAY (2018).

     

    WTF???


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    Mike

    918 Spyder + 991 GT3 RS +Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S + Panamera Turbo +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T


    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

    I think it’s Elon’s army behind this.....

    Seriously, I’m sorry for you man. Idiots.....mail


    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

    It may have something to do with emissions cerification, I don't really know but even the R8 seems to be affected, I know a guy in the US whose car is stuck in port as well for weeks now. yes


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

     Delays at ports are usually caused by emission certification issues OR  manufacturer  modifications that  can more easily be corrected at one site, rather than at numerous dealers once the cars are distributed. It is possible that Porsche itself is holding up the cars to make minor corrections by having technical personnel address those matters in one facility. Just a thought.


    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

    Wonderbar:

     Delays at ports are usually caused by emission certification issues OR  manufacturer  modifications that  can more easily be corrected at one site, rather than at numerous dealers once the cars are distributed. It is possible that Porsche itself is holding up the cars to make minor corrections by having technical personnel address those matters in one facility. Just a thought.

    I also considered mods as a source of the delay.

    An additional item of interest is my dealer reports that port delays only seem to be affecting the hybrid models of Porsche.  Cayenne and Panamera are both delayed.  The Cayenne hybrid was held up for a month or more and the Panamera hybrids (4 & Turbo S) are still in limbo.

    One can find the Cayenne hybrid on www.fueleconomy.gov, but the two Panamera variants are not there.  Kind of gives credence to EPA certification troubles.

    For a 5-month additional delay to make sense, it might be that some new module has to be designed, sourced, produced, and fitted to rectify whatever the difficulty may be.  Uncertain delivery of the mods bits may also explain the wording of the e-mail that says not to expect delivery BEFORE May 2018.  Delivery in May only if things go as planned?


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    Mike

     

    918 Spyder + 991 GT3 RS +Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S + Panamera Turbo +  BMW Z8 + BMW 3.0 CSi + Bentley Arnage T


    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

    Perhaps EPA doesn't trust the declared fuel economy rating and need to redo the testing?


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    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

    You also have to wonder if there is some fallout from the VW Diesels issue. EPA not trusting any of Porsche's data.


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    2016 Porsche 991 Carrera GTS  Black with AeroKit Cup Package,  2017 Porsche Cayenne Platinum  Purpurite Metallic, New York


    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

    Yet, none of the regular models are being detained, only the hybrid ones.


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    Re: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid - Most powerful Panamera (2017)

    PCNA did have a similar issue with the New Panamera last year which delayed the Panamera launch for a few months. I am hearing it’s an issue with EPA and the some individual States. 


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    2016 Porsche 991 Carrera GTS  Black with AeroKit Cup Package,  2017 Porsche Cayenne Platinum  Purpurite Metallic, New York


     
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