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    Re: Cayman GT4

    My wife gets herself a 992 GT3 Touring Cab... ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜Ž Only if they offer PDK though.


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    RC:

    My wife gets herself a 992 GT3 Touring Cab... ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜Ž Only if they offer PDK though.

    Did you really hear they’re going to make that?


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


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    derder:

    Don't get ripped off WAY,

     

    Get a used 997.2 GT3.  A "proper" GT car Smiley


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    I’ve had two of those 997.2 GT3s and you’re on your second. We’ve both had a GT4 too. So now let’s get a Spyder together. ๐Ÿ˜ Btw you should get a M2C DCT as a daily. I love mine so much. Perfect daily. It’s my 4th M2 variant and this one is the best yet for sure! 


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    Grant:
    RC:

    My wife gets herself a 992 GT3 Touring Cab... ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜Ž Only if they offer PDK though.

    Did you really hear they’re going to make that?

    992 GT3 will have a convertible variant. 


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    the-missile:
    Grant:
    RC:

    My wife gets herself a 992 GT3 Touring Cab... ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜Ž Only if they offer PDK though.

    Did you really hear they’re going to make that?

    992 GT3 will have a convertible variant. 

    Maybe they should stop doing the Carrera versions all together Smiley

    While Audi and VW are restructuring and reducing  their line up , as they now have way too many different models , Porsche has open the taps and there is no stopping them doing every combination possible . In a few years, they ' ll probably go back to smaller range again . 

     


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    More money than brain at the moment...it will take time. 


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    GT Lover, Porsche fan

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    Cayenne GTS 2014


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    Boxster Coupe GTS:
    Enzo II:

    6 speed MT

    4.0 L

    6 cyl

    420 hp

    20"

    GT brakes and components

     

     

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    OH NOOOOOOO  the Spyder top - not automatic?  The last 2 piece one was a total bummer.and this one will be too.

    And so sorry to hear same sh.tty ratios as last GT4, even bigger bummer, but at least... more Torque?


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    Why did they make the ratios that high in the first place? Better acceleration?


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    Gauss:

    Why did they make the ratios that high in the first place? Better acceleration?

    To meet the emission requirement 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


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    Gauss:

    Why did they make the ratios that high in the first place? Better acceleration?

    Because the car has a high top speed and doesn’t rev super high.  Porsche always gears the GT cars for top speed in top gear at the engine’s peak hp.  It feels perfectly geared on autobahn and Nurburgring...


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


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    watt:                                                                                                                                                                       OH NOOOOOOO  the Spyder top - not automatic?  The last 2 piece one was a total bummer.and this one will be too

     

     It utlises the same one pieces roof as the 981 spyder which is a totally different design to the 2 piece 987 version you must be thinking of. It's not that difficult to operate. The biggest pain is finding the hidden buttons in the sail panels at the rear.


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    Grant:
    Gauss:

    Why did they make the ratios that high in the first place? Better acceleration?

    Because the car has a high top speed and doesn’t rev super high.  Porsche always gears the GT cars for top speed in top gear at the engine’s peak hp.  It feels perfectly geared on autobahn and Nurburgring...

    In one of the latest video with AP explaining the new GT4 , the journalist asks him why they keep the big gearing when people have been complaining . AP answers  that they have to in order to pass the emissions standards . Think it was in the interview from Auto Sport 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991.2 GT3 RS 


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    I saw that too, but I don’t see any other option without harming Vmax and/or high speed acceleration, given the characteristics of the car (or add a 7th performance gear)


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


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    Clearly when the head of the department tells you it is because of emissions repeatedly, if it wasn’t for emissions the car would have a different gearing. That’s actually one of the biggest complaints about the car apparently and some people even try to change the gearing... Bean counters and lawyers run Porsche and they make tons of money.


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    what is really means is the govts are putting sports cars out of business?  Instead you get the too tall BS Porsche has had in GT3's from 2000 or so.  Why can Ferrari make short tight gears work, and not Porsche?????

     


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    ISUK:
    watt:                                                                                                                                                                       OH NOOOOOOO  the Spyder top - not automatic?  The last 2 piece one was a total bummer.and this one will be too

     

     It utlises the same one pieces roof as the 981 spyder which is a totally different design to the 2 piece 987 version you must be thinking of. It's not that difficult to operate. The biggest pain is finding the hidden buttons in the sail panels at the rear.

    Isuk, thanks, if anyone can show me that one piece Spyder top I'd appreciate it.  Mine was 2 pieces and totally sucked


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    Grant:
    RC:

    My wife gets herself a 992 GT3 Touring Cab... ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜Ž Only if they offer PDK though.

    Did you really hear they’re going to make that?

    I'm afraid so...or should I say "luckily"? Smiley

    Depends on the price, if Porsche Financial doesn't offer good lease offers (it will be a business car for my wife Smiley), she will take the upcoming 992 Carrera GTS. She could also wait for the facelift with mild hybrid, we'll see...


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    Re: Cayman GT4

    watt:

    what is really means is the govts are putting sports cars out of business?  Instead you get the too tall BS Porsche has had in GT3's from 2000 or so.  Why can Ferrari make short tight gears work, and not Porsche?????

     

    We covered this in another thread. Ferrari are not subject to the same stringent testing regime as Porsche at present due to their much lower annual production figure. Porsche fall into the volume sales bracket so have a much stricter fleet average target to meet. Even if the only model they produced was the 911 range they would still hit this issue as the overall annual sales exceed the 10,000 threshold for low volume exemption.


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    watt:
     

    Isuk, thanks, if anyone can show me that one piece Spyder top I'd appreciate it.  Mine was 2 pieces and totally sucked

     


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    The roof attachment point becomes an open hole when the top is down? This should have been finished in a more complete way, it just looks lazy from a design perspective.

    The power figure is nice, but frankly the automated idle stop and ever-increasing mass make this inadequately appealing for me to change. Too bad about the Bergspyder though...


    Re: Cayman GT4

    watt:

    what is really means is the govts are putting sports cars out of business?  Instead you get the too tall BS Porsche has had in GT3's from 2000 or so.  Why can Ferrari make short tight gears work, and not Porsche?????

    Because they don't make Manuals and their boxes have 7 ratios.  And their larger V8's have more torque (particularly new turbocharged ones), so feels like it pulls the gear ratios better.


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    18 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


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    Porsche 718 Cayman GT4: Product highlights...

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    Video Link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q2pRCbLyOI

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    Funny enough saw one on the street today already, without any camouflage. LB plates. Front bumper looks bolder than the old one, other than that no real surprises. Rear bumper looks as dull as on pictures. Sounded slightly different and a tad mor silent than the precious model, at least driving by.


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    so Porsche just sent the Spyder stuff

    https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/718/718-spyder/?utm_campaign=PCNA_Newsletter_06-2019&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email

    Sky thinks he'll get one; he's wanting a lugged car for way back in, and in GT3 he'd have to go back to 2008....


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    That sounds like a great plan sir! Smiley

    I expect that Porsche will find demand for the Spyder and Cayman GT4 will be rather impressive... Smiley

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    watt:

    so Porsche just sent the Spyder stuff

    https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/718/718-spyder/?utm_campaign=PCNA_Newsletter_06-2019&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email

    Sky thinks he'll get one; he's wanting a lugged car for way back in, and in GT3 he'd have to go back to 2008....

    Cool car kiss seemingly all sold out around here but hopefully they make some more.

    Curious - is Sky thinking of carrying a space-saver spare wheel or something? 


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    718 Spyder at Festival of Speed....

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    Liking that! kiss


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    Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 ... First ride at Goodwood! (by PistonHeads)

    A ride will never be as good as a drive, but who'd pass up a chance to experience the new GT4?

    (Thursday 4th July 2019)

    The 2019 Cayman GT4 might have a new 4.0-litre engine and comprehensively revised chassis setup, but few would describe it as anything more than a thorough evolution of the old car. The last GT4 was so lovely to steer, so engaging and so wonderfully in tune with your inputs that any drastic alteration would have been wholly unnecessary. Yet still, even in the company of ultra-rare exotica, the new GT4 that PH gets to ride in at the Goodwood Festival of Speed is garnering as much attention as the 935 parked beside it. It doesn't need to shout; people are just excited about the GT4.

    Still, this new car, with its bored-out and naturally aspirated version of the present 992 turbo engine, must be sublime to make even a slight improvement on its predecessor. And it really needs to do that in order to restore some credibility to the Cayman nametag, which has suffered under the introduction of the ill-received 718 flat four motors. As our yellow GT4's flat-six fires up, there are smiles both inside and outside the awning as people all collectively enjoy the tone. There's nothing quite like a Stuttgart flat six, is there?

    With 420hp and 310lb ft of torque produced by the Porsche's 9A2 Evo powerplant, there's a healthy 35hp advantage over the old car on offer. And while an 8,000rpm redline can't compare to the Speedster's GT3-sourced 4.0-litre and its 9,000 limit, we doubt many will care in a Cayman that has three pedals and a manual gear lever. Our driver, former Britcar and British GT4 champ Ross Wylie, knows his way around Porsches thanks to a season in Carrera Cup GB. But this is his first go in a GT4 and his first run up the Goodwood hill since last year, so let's not expect anything too fast, shall we?

    Thing is, pro drivers are a different breed from the rest of us, so as soon as we're at the front of the Supercar Paddock queue and the marshal waves the flag, Ross has us charging towards the first turn as if he knows nothing else. Can you notice the extra grunt from the passenger seat? It's impossible to tell subjectively, obviously, but rest assured this GT4 is rapid to get going and the mid-range feels strong. It's also clear this is a motor that likes to rev as just before Ross hits the brakes it seems to find a second wind.

    The way the GT4 reacts through the next bit feels indistinguishable from the old GT4; the nose dips only slightly with Ross's hard hit of the middle pedal, then the car hunkers down as he angles it right. It's all subjective again, but the GT4 feels almost race-car like from the left seat and Ross even comments later that the steering is very responsive to make the front end feel ultra-eager. Again, all former GT4 traits, but with real potential that things have been ramped up five or ten per cent with Porsche's chassis improvements.

    Indeed, Ross is so confident in what's beneath him that's he's back on the power in what he later described a "linear fashion" - we'd see it as stamping back on the throttle. The limited-slip differential behind, now aided by torque vectoring, duly responds and those rears bite into the surface beautifully. Ross reckons his decision to not change down into second meant that our exit was compromised; we exit at 4,000rpm and the car powers out intently, but there's clearly lots more to be had at the top as the thrust builds and builds.

    We fire under the bridge, flat six behind making all the glorious sounds we've missed so dearly from the 718 range until now, before Ross is hard back on the brakes. There's so little rock from the body as the dampers are quick to tense, meaning at the first stroke of steering lock the car feels beautifully loaded up from the passenger seat; it must inspire much confidence on the other side as Ross's first ever GT4 run through Molecomb is taken with a scary (for yours truly, anyway!) amount of commitment and he's back on the power long before the hay bales have passed our vision. Traction is brilliant and the engine really does spin enthusiastically towards its redline. Without a back-to-back in the last GT4, we can't decisively say things are better, but rest assured the new 4.0-litre feels very good.

    There is, however, one teeny, tiny thing. The engine doesn't sound quite as vocal as the old 3.8. Perhaps it's the noise-reducing influence of a race helmet, but the tone in the cabin certainly feels like it's a few decibels lower than before. And the exhaust note from outside also sounds a little smoother, lacking the endearing gruffness of the old flat six at low revs that made it sound like a proper race car at times. Is this the impact of a particulate filter? Perhaps so. But, then again, the Goodwood paddock and hill climb are probably not fair places to test such a thing; there are enough unsilenced V12s around to alter the context a bit. So let's cut the GT4 some slack for now. First impressions are good - very, very good.

    Link:  https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/porsche-718-cayman-gt4--first-ride/40542

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    Dreamcar

    Look forward to hearing your list of FOS highlights for 2019.

    Hope to get back there next year.

    David


     
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