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    Re: Cayman GT4

    YESSS Please! kiss


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    M3ike:
    If there is interest I can provide an in-depth review of the Clubsport as I raced it last weekend in the German Porsche Sportscup at Spa, both sprint and endurance races.
    Mike

    Go for it, Mike. Be a good read for us.

    Also, it will make blue realise that he needs a manly GT4, you know, not a gay one Smiley Smiley Smiley..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.


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    Yes, please Mike. Would love to read this.

    If I may only ask you to please tone it down and keep it soft. For the sake of throt. Thanks!
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    bluelines:
    Yes, please Mike. Would love to read this.

    If I may only ask you to please tone it down and keep it soft. For the sake of throt. Thanks!

    Smiley Smiley


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.


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    Yes please Mike!


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    Nah skip it, everyone here knows how good a GT4 is from blueline already and the GT4CS is just the big brother of that haha

    Some do complaint that the springs are too hard on the race car, but Porsche itself said it is fine and needed to have the car corner well at high speed, what do u think?
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    Whoopsy:
    Some do complaint that the springs are too hard on the race car, but Porsche itself said it is fine and needed to have the car corner well at high speed, what do u think?

    I think the stiff springs are helpful in reducing any geometry issues with the strut rear suspension.  Stiffer springs are a popular upgrade for the road car also when used on track.


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | Powerkit White - The fastest car on Rennteam
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | Powerkit White - The fastest car on Rennteam
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | Powerkit White - The fastest car on Rennteam
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


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    The little bastard looks good, bud...indecision...


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.


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    throt:

    The little bastard looks good, bud...indecision...

    Reading that post made me think that if James Dean were alive today he'd probably drive a GT4 Smiley:  

    http://bikefrenzy.co.uk/the-story-of-james-deans-little-bastard/


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    fritz


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    Hahaha,, pretty cool kiss..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.


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    Small teaser, leading into Eau Rouge, more to followPSC516_SH15079_TH.jpg


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    Nice - I was driving Eau Rouge in my GT4 almost exactly a year ago.


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


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    Bluelines : Nice under/over processed photos Smiley  And the GT3 is in front , you know your place Smiley


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


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    Thanks! Yes, but it got tiresome to have to drive with the brake pedal constantly pressed to not bump into that GT3 rear.
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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | Powerkit White - The fastest car on Rennteam
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


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    Brilliant Mike!


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    Finally got word from Porsche that my CS will LEAVE Germany next week laugh

    About time.


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    Whoopsy:

     

    About time .... to stick the new HRE winter rims on Smiley

     


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


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    2 more weeks perhaps, winter tires going on them and I am not due back home till the 29th

     


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    So as requested my write-up from last weekend's Porsche Sportscup Germany in Spa.

    Recently the itch to race again after having done my last race in 2012 at the Ring got stronger and stronger. As I rate Spa together with the Nordschleife and Portimao the best tracks I've driven and as time permitted I took the opportunity to take part in the Sportscup at Spa. First hurdle to overcome was renewing my race license. So far I could participate in RCN/VLN with the national licenses but  the Supersports and the Endurance races required an international license. Before I was granted it and handing over more dosh than the national license I had to hand in all my former results. Luckily they still granted it to me.

    The plan was to start with my mate and former 2 times VLN overall champion as a kind of "old sack" team in the Cayman GT4 CS. Just before the long weekend started I got the offer to drive a 991 Cup for the same price but bowed out as haven't raced for 4 years and admittedly in Spa there are some pretty fast corners which despite the better aero of the Cup require a big set of balls to go really fast.

    As the actual events takes place on Saturday and Sunday we took the opportunity to set the car up on a track day the day before. Unfortunately I could only drive around 8 laps in total that day which for me was not really much to get up to speed again as a guy in a 991GT3RS totalled his car at the end of the Kemel straight when hitting an oil spot. Luckily he had the full cage installed and got away with some bruises. Again a reminder why I stopped driving road cars on track, you can be as careful as you want, if you hit oil or water things can turn sour.

    Sour was the setup of our car as well. We suffered from big mid-corner understeer and push on acceleration. Turn-in was good though and in high speed corners like Eau Rouge, Pouhon and Blanchimont the car gave confidence. Luckily my mate has fantastic skills in setting up a car and our mechanics worked perfectly on the car. In the end we took out the grills at the front for more downforce, put the rear ARB on hard, increased the ride height at the rear and put much less toe-in at the rear. This helped not only to preserve the front tires during the races but also helped to rotate the car to set it up for the corners. High speed stability was still very good as well as stability under braking. The brakes which are from the Cup are anyway one of the standout features of the car. As the car has no brake booster I specifically trained my legs to be able to push the whole race. The brake performance itself is fantastic, we drove sprint brake pads (couldn't notice a difference from the endurance pads to be honest) and almost no wear, absolutely consistent brake performance and pedal feel. The ABS is great, it only kicks in when the slicks are cold and you have 12 settings connected to the TC. We always drove on setting 3, so almost no assistance. The TC is absolutely non-intrusive, only when the rear tires got hot during the race it cut in at La Source, the hairpin. Through the Pif Paf chicane you could steer the car with the throttle, really big fun.

    As Porsche didn't want to have the car too manly they exchanged the manual for a PDK, 7. gear blocked. Again, when racing the PDK is amazing as it really helps you to focus on the racing line. Also when you fight with other cars it gives that little more brain capacity to overtake/defend. The engine itself is in my eyes nothing special. It really sounds very coarse inside, very flat power band. We also had problems with the oil and water temperatures, oil went to 146 degrees and water above 110 at one point so we decided to flush the whole cooling water and also exchanged the oil overnight. When driving to the Ring Sunday evening after the event in my RS you really appreciate what a masterpiece that 4 litre engine is.

    Due to the loss of seat time we decided to drive not only the Endurance race but also the Supersports races. With that we gained another free practice and a qualifying. This helped me a lot. In the qualifying I was not able to use the peak of the new slicks, you have to be on it lap 3 and 4, after that they drop but stay constant. My mate was much better in that so he drove the qualifying laps and I nursed the tires as you have to use them again during the race so we thought this would give us more grip towards the end of the races (which was the case).

    In the first Sprint race which is 35 minutes my mates got 6. places out of 13 cars. I managed to do the same in the second race and was driving quicker with worn tires than during qualifying as I found my rhythm. There are 60 cars starting together (RSR, GT3R, new and older Cups and the Caymans), some Pro drivers (current and former) like Klaus Bachler, Mario Farnbacher, Christian Menzel so level is very high.

    It was unusually hot for Spa in September 26 degrees and we only run the aircon in the warmup lap to cool down the interior, during the race we shut it off for max power.

    In my first race I got a good start, went outside La Source and was setup on the inside for Eau Rouge. Already there in the first lap to cars crashed and you had to drive through a cloud of dust. The whole race I had good fights with other Caymans and managed to overtake even in the last lap.

    The Endurance races have a different format, it is 50 minutes and between 20 and 30 minutes you have to pit and change drivers. You have 1.30min minimum stand time in your pit. It sounds easy but when you come in, full of adrenalin, exhausted you have to be careful not to drive above 60km/h in the pitlane and at the same time starting to loosen your harness so your mate has it easier when jumping in.

    In the Endurance races we managed 4. and 6. places out of 11 starters, car run like a charm also on worn tires. I drove my quickest laps then with 2.384min, the fastest lap in the race was by Christian Menzel at 2.354 but then dropping also to 2.37 and 2.38. I have to say I was very happy with the result, it was huge fun, we didn't have one scratch on the car. The fights with the other drivers were always fair.

    Also the whole experience with the Porsche lounge, food and atmosphere was fantastic. The only downside is now that the bug bit me again!

    Some pictures:

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    Great Mike! kiss

    Thanks a bunch for the detailed write-up and excellent pictures, even if they are from the girlieman version with PDK indecision I enjoyed reading your post a lot, we need more of that on RT wink


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | Powerkit White - The fastest car on Rennteam
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


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    Great photos, Mike!!


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


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    Excellent report, thanks!


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    Thanks Mike, entertaining read.


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    Thanks Mike, enjoyed reading your report . It all looks very exciting !

    How would you compare the GT4 CS to your RS ?  ( I know, not a fair comparaison as one is a real track toy , the other a street car for track , but just a few differences , pros and cons of each )

     


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    Thanks for a very entertaining report Mike! Would love to drive one of those some day! kiss


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    Macan911:
    http://www.inautonews.com/porsche-cayman-gt4-is-real-was-caught-on-the-open-road

    Did I miss something Smiley

    Article is from 2014...


     
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