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    2019 BMW Z4

    I believe the correct term is........................... meh! Smiley

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    Not too bad. The gauge cluster looks interesting, and definitely an improvement over the last gen. The side profile looks a little Mazda-ish in those pics though, will have to see it live.


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    Wow, a Japanese BMW indecision


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    They shouldn't have set such high expectations with the show car. This thing could be some Japanese sports car, or a Corvette, or whatever...


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    KMM:

    They shouldn't have set such high expectations with the show car. This thing could be some Japanese sports car, or a Corvette, or whatever...

    Replace the kidney grille with Mercedes' Panamera style grille and it could be another Mercedes.  There's a lot of SL in that design, including the rear section.  The interior, outside of the digital instrument panel, seems more reflective of Toyota, as many expected, than BMW.  Plus it looks dated compared with the current interior trends of Audi and Porsche, for example.  One is not even sure of the market anymore since sports cars are not selling strongly compared with incredible growth in SUVs and crossovers.  


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    Topspeed:

    Funny, replace the beamer badge with a mercedes and you have a baby AMG GT C.... Smiley


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    It looks like a Merc to me.


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    Gauss:

    It looks like a Merc to me.

    It really does, same rear lights and front bumper... Just change the bmw kidneys for the merc style grill and badge, and it would pass as the new slk.


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    Really disappointed of how this turned out, the concept car was so much more interesting. It also looks like a Fiat 124 a bit. 


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    Some reviews I've read call it "beautiful" and "a stunner". Probably it looks better in real life, although I don't find the new car ugly.

    I am indifferent to the Z4 because In would never consider it. But people who look for this type of car will find it more than adequate in looks and performance.

    I expect it to be a better value than a Boxster and the choice of 6-cylinder engines might be a decider.


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    BMW's design departement has totally lost the plot. enlightened

    Very meh, if you ask me. IMG_0054.ICO


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    BMW designers lost the plot somewhere around 2000...


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    So how many design interns got to add their own "special" lines? Even the black grill looks like someone walked by with a can of spray paint right before the pics were shot..... Hopeless !


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    SciFrog:

    BMW designers lost the plot somewhere around 2000...

    Yes, that's about right. I thought my E34 530i was perfect and would have kept it had the interior not come totally unglued in the Florida heat, and the V8's nikasil liners resist sulfur better. 


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    the ugliest Z4 ever .. proportions are wrong, way too much front overhang

    and far too many lines and strakes; a classic case of over design

    the front face and bumper is truly awful; clumsy, heavy handed and confused

     


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    Probably the normal models without  the ///M-look, as shown on the intro models,  will be more attractive and more proportional without the excessive orifices, appendices etc of the Z4M.

    However, I think younger buyers around the world are probably attracted by this "Orientalised" and definitely much more than people who grew up with the 80s-90s German cars.

    The re-introduction of soft top is welcome.


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    The good thing about such horrid design is that it keeps our car buying decision making process simpler.

     


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    It actually looks quite good live but it doesn't have a "proper" engine. A small n/a V8 in this thing would be amazing...


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    RC:

    It actually looks quite good live but it doesn't have a "proper" engine. A small n/a V8 in this thing would be amazing...


    A small straight six like back in the days would also be nice. But these times are over, we will see neither unfortunately. Smiley


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    Its co-develop with Toyota and even it doesn't share the design of the Toyota it probably looks more like a Japanese car than the Supra itself. 

    The concept was a stunner but it was clear that the concept never will make it to the road. 


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    NBR Supertest time for the new BMW Z4 M40i 7:55.

    IMO this very good for what is basically an unpretentious  recreational open top car fitted with a stronger engine.

    It will definitely be very good value compared to the very expensive €70.000 Boxster S especially given the latter's        4 cylinder engine.

    Porsche cars except the 911s (especially the GTs) are not as desirable anymore given their heritage. Blame the VW Group accountants for this who view PAG as a cash cow to offset their many losing projects.

     

     


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    reginos:

    NBR Supertest time for the new BMW Z4 M40i 7:55.

    IMO this very good for what is basically an unpretentious  recreational open top car fitted with a stronger engine.

    It will definitely be very good value compared to the very expensive €70.000 Boxster S especially given the latter's        4 cylinder engine.

    Porsche cars except the 911s (especially the GTs) are not as desirable anymore given their heritage. Blame the VW Group accountants for this who view PAG as a cash cow to offset their many losing projects.

     

     

    Yes, quite good time

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    easy 10 sec on latest tire tech against times taken longer than 12 month ago......- valid for all cars........

    spoke to the Michelin Germany guy - very impressive of how fast things have developed over the last 24 month....

    One of the biggest flaws of SA to compare new times with old times......


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    Z4 brother, Toyota Supra.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OXNHTpkUdA

     


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    Seems to look more like a BMW than the Z4... Smiley Smiley


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    RC:

    Seems to look more like a BMW than the Z4... Smiley Smiley

    That’s a good thing no? I may get one!


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    I wonder whether BMW will develop a Z4 Coupe, similar to the Z3 and the first Z4.

    Or they have an agreement with Toyota for one company  to develop a roadster and the other a closed top car?


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