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    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Joost:
    RC:

    Personally, I would have bought a 991.2 GTS with RWS but this is me, I drive a R8, I have different tastes. Smiley

    To each his own I guess but maybe the 911 T will have some collector's value at some point. It is a very nice car, no doubt. 

    You do?!? No way! I never heard about that, please tell us a bit more! Smiley

    I also heard that car manufacturers use marketing tricks.  Perhaps Audi uses marketing tricks as well. 


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Of course Audi does...it is called R8 RWS and the suckers fell for it. Smiley Smiley Still probably going to have a collector's value at some point since this is the only (so far) 2WD R8 ever and produced in limited numbers (999).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    reginos:

    Personally, I would like a Carrera S with powerkit and RWS rather than a GTS, in order to avoid the wide body and the -20mm PASM of the GTS. Most people would find this very odd Smiley

    "Porsche....and Nothing else matters"

     

    Not at all. I too prefer the narrow body, and with the roads here, I prefer regular PASM to SPASM (although the SPASM on the 991.2 seems to be more forgiving than on the 991.1; in both cases combined with PDCC I should add.)

     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Smiley


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    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    T-update:

    Changed the steering wheel silver-insertes to black-inserts of the GT3.

    Next step: Lithium Battery from Lite Blox.

    Blueflame

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    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    blueflame:

    T-update:

    Changed the steering wheel silver-insertes to black-inserts of the GT3.

    Next step: Lithium Battery from Lite Blox.

    Blueflame

    1530710613863IMG_7230.jpg

    what happened to the steering mounted controls Smiley


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    wow, you mean business here (you are already aware that I follow everything in this thread...Smiley) - the weight loss is substantial in numbers, ie. roughly 20 kg. However, if I put that back into my perspective, that weight saving is about 1,5 % of the total weight of the car (...1500 kg) ... unless, you like the LiteBox like I am grazy for the T-interior, it makes no sense to me if I may say so. We are still talking about the "T" and not a "Cup whatever version"...just saying...BUT, keep the comments coming, they give me something to think about ! Smiley


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    d997h:

    wow, you mean business here (you are already aware that I follow everything in this thread...Smiley) - the weight loss is substantial in numbers, ie. roughly 20 kg. However, if I put that back into my perspective, that weight saving is about 1,5 % of the total weight of the car (...1500 kg) ... unless, you like the LiteBox like I am grazy for the T-interior, it makes no sense to me if I may say so. We are still talking about the "T" and not a "Cup whatever version"...just saying...BUT, keep the comments coming, they give me something to think about ! Smiley

    My T weights with a full tank 1.423 Kg - the target is to build the lightest 991.2 including the RS-Models, using Porsche OEM Parts, which you can buy for street use. So the DIN-weight(90% Fuel) with the extreme light battery would be under 1.400 Kg...

    How much do you pay for the Weissach Package for the 991.2 GT3RS to save 18 Kg? Smiley

    The Lithium Battery is a bargain regarding weight savings...unfortunately the OEM Lithium Battery from Porsche Motorsport is right now not available, so I will use the LiteBlox until it will be. It seems, that too many cars burned to ground with their light Porsche-Lithium battery and the wrong chargers.Smiley

    Blueflame

    BTW - This is the OEM-Lithium:

    https://www.ebay.de/itm/Original-Porsche-13-2-V-40-AH-528-Wh-LITHIUM-STARTER-AUTOBATTERIE/142677303887?hash=item21383ae24f:g:0l8...

     


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    blueflame:
    d997h:

    wow, you mean business here (you are already aware that I follow everything in this thread...Smiley) - the weight loss is substantial in numbers, ie. roughly 20 kg. However, if I put that back into my perspective, that weight saving is about 1,5 % of the total weight of the car (...1500 kg) ... unless, you like the LiteBox like I am grazy for the T-interior, it makes no sense to me if I may say so. We are still talking about the "T" and not a "Cup whatever version"...just saying...BUT, keep the comments coming, they give me something to think about ! Smiley

    My T weights with a full tank 1.423 Kg - the target is to build the lightest 991.2 including the RS-Models, using Porsche OEM Parts, which you can buy for street use. So the DIN-weight(90% Fuel) with the extreme light battery would be under 1.400 Kg...

     

    Ok, so, performancewise you would be aiming at something  like Carrera S / GTS territory ? Or PERHAPS even R8...ooops, couldn‘t resist to go OT .... Smiley


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I am going to exchange my steering wheel inserts too and that T is bye, bye indecision

    Blue exterior colour adds at least 100kg so it will never get under 1500kg smiley


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    As long as you have the isofix mountings in your car, it is „bye bye lightweight“ for you...Smiley ... seriously, blueflame seems to have started in interesting project...Smiley


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    d997h:

    As long as you have the isofix mountings in your car, it is „bye bye lightweight“ for you...Smiley

    Smiley

    d997h:

    ... seriously, blueflame seems to have started in interesting project...Smiley

    Yes, I am looking forward with great excitement to the photos where the interior floor mats, sound deadening and cup holders are being removed while expensive lightweight carbon fiber wheels are being mounted. Once you get the modification virus there is no cure... SmileySmiley


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    bluelines:

    I am going to exchange my steering wheel inserts too and that T is bye, bye indecision

    Blue exterior colour adds at least 100kg so it will never get under 1500kg smiley

     

    Don´t be so tough on me, I´m very sensible...Smiley

    But Miamiblue is a non Metallic and your GT-Silver ads 0.3 Kg to the weight of your GTS...Smiley but no problem with 450HP...Smiley

    BTW, did you know, that the factory cuts out the carpet under the seats of the 991.2 GT3 RS to save some grams...so a cutter knive is on top of my shoping list...Smiley

    Blueflame

    PS  I miss this Noone-Toyota-RAV4-Guy - his post always produced some discussions...but what I really would like to know is, if he was just a troll or really had a real life McLaren.


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I take it, that you are very serious about your project - sooooooo, will the weight loss project put you ahead of an, say,  Audi R8 All-wheel drive Veeee 10 then...??? Smiley 

    I understand taking out the carpets, which is inexpensive, so, what is next, carbon fibre hood of the RS ?


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I think lightweight wheels would be the natural next step. It is probably going to make the most difference. Both in handling and in the wallet indecision


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    No, Lithium Battery and PCM out are the final steps with the T - after that I will go to Hockenheim/Pistenclub an try the car on track and compare laptimes and drivefeeling with my old 981 Spyder.

    As I mentioned before, the T is a intermediate car for me to try the 991 platform - goal is a used GT3 Touring or the 718 Spyder...in 2019/2020.

    But playing with these cars is the fun...and as my salesman from our OPC told me yesterday...with crazy people like you, we earn our money...

    But this is not 100% correct, because my former 981 Spyder, which I sold them for list price after 2 years,  stands still unsold in their showroom for 105K€...smiley

    Blueflame


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Lightweight wheels will make a big  difference , I agree . You will feel it . Much more then the battery . 


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     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS ( SOLD ) 


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    bluelines:

    I am going to exchange my steering wheel inserts too and that T is bye, bye indecision

    Blue exterior colour adds at least 100kg so it will never get under 1500kg smiley

    Guys, I am on a diet right now, I will crush you all in my GTS. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mercedes E63 S AMG Edition 1 (2018), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    RC:
    bluelines:

    I am going to exchange my steering wheel inserts too and that T is bye, bye indecision

    Blue exterior colour adds at least 100kg so it will never get under 1500kg smiley

    Guys, I am on a diet right now, I will crush you all in my GTS. Smiley

    Coffees are cool, bud Smiley..


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    throt

    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.

    991 GT3.2 pick up April/May 2018. ( Hairy Chest Spec ).

    Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 Exclusive pick up June 2013. ( Shit Box )

    Rennteam Hairy Chest Advisor.


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    blueflame:

    No, Lithium Battery and PCM out are the final steps with the T - after that I will go to Hockenheim/Pistenclub an try the car on track and compare laptimes and drivefeeling with my old 981 Spyder.

     

    Hockenheim, 04.08. or 05.08.2018 ?


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    d997h:
    blueflame:

    No, Lithium Battery and PCM out are the final steps with the T - after that I will go to Hockenheim/Pistenclub an try the car on track and compare laptimes and drivefeeling with my old 981 Spyder.

     

    Hockenheim, 04.08. or 05.08.2018 ?

    The date is not confirmed yet...by my wife...Smiley

    Blueflame


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    d997h:
    blueflame:

    No, Lithium Battery and PCM out are the final steps with the T - after that I will go to Hockenheim/Pistenclub an try the car on track and compare laptimes and drivefeeling with my old 981 Spyder.

     

    Hockenheim, 04.08. or 05.08.2018 ?

    We have booked now for sunday 05.08.2018 at Hockenheim with Pistenclub.

    I will take the T and my friends their 991.2 GT3 (stick) and 964 RSR (Clone), maybe another 991 Turbo S and a 981 Boxster GTS.

    Blueflame


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Hmmm, I am at Hockenheim the sunday before (Porsche Club Cup) and SWMBO just announced another plan for us...a pity...


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Had a loaner for a short time today and I am impressed! I compared performance figures of the „T“ to my 981 GTS earlier, 0 to 100 km/h in roughly 4.5 sec for both, but, man, this „T“ feels so much quicker and it actually is faster from 0 - 200 km/ h...around 3 sec...so, kudos to Porsche for this model...unfortunately, Porsche (or the dealers) in Germany seems to play it veeeeeery safe and offers more or less base carreras, ie rear seats, ordinary glass , etc. ... anyway, I like the „T“ ! kiss


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Glad you liked the T-experience, d997h kiss And yes, most showroom cars are fully specced PDK cars....basically « abused » as normal Carrera substitutes though if your interested there are still few interesting specs around...

    Having said that I enjoy my +4 kg tinted glass with the current hot weather a lot indecision Definitely better « climate » than in my BMW 4er Coupe! My car is broken in now and I enjoy every km in it kiss Or to say it with topgears words: while nobody asked for a 23rd version of the 911 we are wondering why you need the other 22 versions broken heart


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    Daily Driver 991 Carrera T (June 2018), Canyon Carver 981 Spyder, Track Machine 997 GT3


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Thinking seriously about a T over a M2 Competition as a daily driver (currently using M2 as one).  I have always wanted rear seats in my various GT3s as I like the more raw experience of the GT cars. Will the T fit the bill? I actually think with the thin glass and reworked gearshifts it will bring me half way there. So my spec will be manual, Carrera T interior, full PCM/stereo (it’s a daily driver after all!), rear seats, and maybe rear axle steering and PCCB. Are either of those last two options justifiable for a car of this price? Especially keen to hear opinions on the rear wheel steering. I’ve optioned PCCB on even a Boxster S in the past so I think that one just comes down to the dollars. 


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    My GT3 is the only RWS-equipped car I’ve owned.  I wish it had an On/Off switch, as I’d be curious to isolate its effect.


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    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Well, I am still waiting for this desperate move from my dealer wanting to get rid of some of the cars in his showroom...I do not know what the very D-day for them is, but who would seriously want to buy a "T" NOW with WLTP and the Paris Motorshow around the corner, so there should be some benefits / rebates available..unless, hmmm, it is Porsche, and they simply don't care... Smiley

    Again, from the driving experiences, I am really taken by this car as the turbos add so much "fun", considering I am comparing my (lighter) Cayman GTS 340 bhp to a (heavier) T with "just" 30 ponies more...Smiley


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    I took the "T" for a spin actually yesterday evening on the Autobahn and, here we go, a M2 appeared in the mirrow and I let him pass...I am a strong BMW fan and my DD currently is a 335D, therefore I would not like to be in your position right now, perhaps I would choose the M2 over the "T" as a DD...perhaps not...Smiley...

    As to the RWS, I have so far not heard anything about whether it is good or not, though, I would assume that the cornering would be easier on a track with RWS...some reviews on youtube seem to have RWS on board but I would strongly doubt that it can be felt somehow...


    Re: Official: New Porsche Carrera T

    Now go test drive a 991.2 GTS  indecision


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    2017 991.2 Carrera 4 GTS | GT Silver Metallic - The GT3 Killah!
    2013 Audi S3 | Glacier White


     
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