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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Of course there will be a GT3 RS! That's been in the plan for a long time... Smiley

    Not so sure. Why offer the CS in the .2GT3 If there will be a .2 GT3RS? The RS is the track version of the GT3.


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    nberry:
    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Of course there will be a GT3 RS! That's been in the plan for a long time... Smiley

    Not so sure. Why offer the CS in the .2GT3 If there will be a .2 GT3RS? The RS is the track version of the GT3.

    The CS or Touring does not sound like a track version to me. Quite the opposite.


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    What makes you think that? 


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Because it sounds like the poor man's R indecision


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    nberry:
    Kobalt:

    So there will be a 991.2 GT3 RS? Great!

    If there is a plan for .2GT3RS,it gives Porsche leaway to power the .2 GT3 to 500hp if not more.kiss

    4.0L and a lower redline are baked in which sets the power limit at close to 500hp max...

    495hp feels the same as 505hp (2% difference), I assure you...


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

     Grant, you're missing the psychological threshold. The perception is far greater than the reality.indecision


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    nberry:

     Grant, you're missing the psychological threshold. The perception is far greater than the reality.indecision

    There are better cars to buy, if one wants impressive numbers.  GT3 was never about that (but usually performs better than those "impressive" cars on the race track). kiss


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Of course there will be a GT3 RS! That's been in the plan for a long time... Smiley

    I don't know where do you get your info from but they mislead you. Almost surely there won't be a 991.2 GT3 RS. And it certainly hasn't been planned since a long time. 


    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Or just a limited edition of the GT3 RS ;) 


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Of course there will be one. Just extend the wing, add random air intakes and launch it in a special color. Voila! RS.


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Herbaliser:
    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Of course there will be a GT3 RS! That's been in the plan for a long time... Smiley

    I don't know where do you get your info from but they mislead you. Almost surely there won't be a 991.2 GT3 RS. And it certainly hasn't been planned since a long time. 

    How about listening to Andreas Preuninger? Smiley

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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    And where do you read in this article that there will be a 991.2 GT3 RS?

     “There would be no sense in offering, say, a generation two GT3 RS with a manual gearbox, as it needs to be quick on the track.”

    If you mean this, I don't read it that way.


    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Herbaliser:

    And where do you read in this article that there will be a 991.2 GT3 RS?

     “There would be no sense in offering, say, a generation two GT3 RS with a manual gearbox, as it needs to be quick on the track.”

    If you mean this, I don't read it that way.

    Erm, how about this...

    Andreas Preuninger:

    He confirmed that motorsport applications have proved that much more power can be extracted from the 4.0-litre engine in the GT3 RS, but his engineers won’t be going nuts.

    “There is still meat left in that engine,” he says. “But don’t expect the next RS to be a 600bhp car. There’s a certain limit of adding power. Make it lighter [instead], make it feel better.”

    Smiley


    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Well... Time will tell that you are wrong. Till end of 991.2 production Porsche will introduce 3(three) new versions. 

    One is 991.2 GT3, second one is 991.2 GT2 RS and third one is that special Touring. 


    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    At first , that Touring sounded nothing interesting at all . After thinking about it, and if they go seriously light weight ( max 1299 kg ) , have the engine of the 991.1 GTS upgraded , manual box from the GT3 ..... then it could be actually a very nice open road fun car .  But, there are probably way too many   '' if' s'' in my thinking smiley


    EDIT : 

    After reading the posts on the other thread , I now imagine the Touring to be a very light car, with the 4.0 engine of the GT3, maybe a bit detuned , and with Carrera GTS drive trains and spoilers , manual .  The car would then be more practical to drive on public roads then the R ..... ( slightly more confortable and specially with more ground clearance ) 

    A nice DD Smiley

     

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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    The RS versions will always have PDK.

    I have confirmation for a 991.2 GT3, a 991.2 GT2 RS but no 991.2 GT3 RS yet (however everyone is talking about it, rumor-wise, so I assume it is coming). 

    Since Porsche may present the 992 in 2018 already (autumn), there has been lately a strong rumor about that, it is pretty clear that all special edition and GT models of the 991 type will be available latest until 2018.

    The reason for the hurry could be the fact that VW Group needs Porsche's new sportscar platform in place as soon as possible for cost and synergy reasons.

    So far, the 992 was rumored for a 2019 release.


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    RC:

    The RS versions will always have PDK.

    I have confirmation for a 991.2 GT3, a 991.2 GT2 RS but no 991.2 GT3 RS yet (however everyone is talking about it, rumor-wise, so I assume it is coming). 

    Since Porsche may present the 992 in 2018 already (autumn), there has been lately a strong rumor about that, it is pretty clear that all special edition and GT models of the 991 type will be available latest until 2018.

    The reason for the hurry could be the fact that VW Group needs Porsche's new sportscar platform in place as soon as possible for cost and synergy reasons.

    So far, the 992 was rumored for a 2019 release.

    RC...992 avaliable in Dealers in early 2019 (Feb-March)?


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
    RC:

    The RS versions will always have PDK.

    I have confirmation for a 991.2 GT3, a 991.2 GT2 RS but no 991.2 GT3 RS yet (however everyone is talking about it, rumor-wise, so I assume it is coming). 

    Since Porsche may present the 992 in 2018 already (autumn), there has been lately a strong rumor about that, it is pretty clear that all special edition and GT models of the 991 type will be available latest until 2018.

    The reason for the hurry could be the fact that VW Group needs Porsche's new sportscar platform in place as soon as possible for cost and synergy reasons.

    So far, the 992 was rumored for a 2019 release.

    RC...992 avaliable in Dealers in early 2019 (Feb-March)?

    Not likely. Completely new model, so new production...summer/autumn release. 


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Of 2019?


    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Enzo II:

    Of 2019?

    Yes. Unless Porsche speeds up their planning (there were some rumors lately).


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

     

    Thanks

    You mean usually Zuffenhausen closes in August, so they take that month for changing all the machinery, matrix...


    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Enzo II:

     

    Thanks

    You mean usually Zuffenhausen closes in August, so they take that month for changing all the machinery, matrix...

    I actually think they can do that during running production (they have done that before) but it makes it easier for them.


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Will this Touring have back seats??? All I"ve ever wanted was a GT3 engine, suspension & brakes in a regular 911 body with a manual and rear seats. Something I can DD with the kids in the back, row the gears, take it to the track and not blow up the engine...

    If it was a little lighter with the carbon hood etc. that would be even better. really an R with back seats and no stupid pricing. 


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Mithras:

    Will this Touring have back seats??? All I"ve ever wanted was a GT3 engine, suspension & brakes in a regular 911 body with a manual and rear seats. Something I can DD with the kids in the back, row the gears, take it to the track and not blow up the engine...

    If it was a little lighter with the carbon hood etc. that would be even better. really an R with back seats and no stupid pricing. 

    You and many other people...


    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    After reading the superb description of the new GT3 engine I can't help think that the GT2 engine is going to be a let down.

    If it is just a tweaked 991 turbo motor then this is a disappointment for GT2 customers when the GT3 guys get a fancy new cylinder head set up allowing mega revs, special crank etc.......


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    TB993tt:

    After reading the superb description of the new GT3 engine I can't help think that the GT2 engine is going to be a let down.

    If it is just a tweaked 991 turbo motor then this is a disappointment for GT2 customers when the GT3 guys get a fancy new cylinder head set up allowing mega revs, special crank etc.......

    Please wait until the final product shows up. Like I said before, they seem to have reduced the engine power due to a switch to a different engine concept. These are however rumors I cannot verify but of course rumors always have some truth in them. Unfortunately. Porsche will not sell people just a revamped 991.2 Turbo engine but I was hoping for a more special engine for this special car. Maybe development wins over cost calculations, let's see. The GT2 RS won't be produced in the thousands, so maybe we are lucky. 


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Looks like the GT2RS will be premiered at Goodwood in June, together with another 'special edition' car that Porsche will limit to 500 pieces. 

    And no, that car is not the Speedster, but a variation of the 991.2 Turbo S.


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Whoopsy:

    And no, that car is not the Speedster, but a variation of the 991.2 Turbo S.

    Hm, let me guess - 610 hp Turbo S LE? Smiley


    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Whoopsy:

    Looks like the GT2RS will be premiered at Goodwood in June, together with another 'special edition' car that Porsche will limit to 500 pieces. 

    And no, that car is not the Speedster, but a variation of the 991.2 Turbo S.

    Oh boy...this is what I was afraid of. Smiley


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    Re: 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip

    Hm... 2WD version of the Turbo S, effectively instead of the "base GT2"?
    Orrrr... Turbo S Targa?


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