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    360 Modena Facelift?

    Taken from the Car Connection:

    Ferrari's "entry-level" 360 Modena is about to undergo a technical redesign, which is previewed for the very first time in this set of spy pictures. The pictures have been taken most recently in the vicinity of Ferrari's Maranello development headquarters and at the company's own Fiorano racetrack.

    Although still selling well (months-long waiting lists are proof of this), Ferrari is taking the initiative and updating the 360 Modena in 2004, in order to fight off increasing competition, which could be imposed by the new Lamborghini Gallardo, or the McLaren-Mercedes SLR, or just obsolescence over the course of time.

    Visually, only the mildest of changes will be applied to one of Pininfarina's all-time classics: new headlights mark the most significant change from the current car. Black carriers replace the formerly body-colored units of the current car with their three neighboring round projector-style units. The rounded overall shape is maintained, but the new units feature a vertically tapered inner shape and are also sectioned horizontally, with single projector-style main beams in the upper section, and position lights and side indicators in a neighboring position in the lower section.

    Spoked wheels from the 360 Challenge Stradale complement the stylistic makeover. They not only offer a fresh new look but also provide increased mechanical stiffness at a reduced weight.

    The major changes take place under the skin: Dubbed the Ferrari 400 Modena, the facelifted 360 uses a heavily modified engine with increased bore and stroke - bringing total displacement from 3.6 to 4.0 liters - and power presumably up to 400 or 420 hp (thus, matching the acclaimed 360 Challenge Stradale).

    A replacement for the Modena, called the 420 Monza, is expected in 2005-06 and likely will use a 4.2-liter version of this engine. Until then, the updated 400 Modena will defend Ferrari. The bespoke modifications are expected for spring 2004 and equally apply for the closed-roof standard model and the open-top Spider.


    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?

    Didn't we have that topic before?
    Anyway, IMO in spring 2004 we will see a redesigned Modena. If it's true, that its V8 will be increased in bore and stroke, then it must be the new V8, currently used in the Maserati, as the old V8 has reached the end of its capacity. I can't believe they will make it smaller, so I expect at least a 4.2 litre engine. 400 or 420 hp make no sense to me. Because why should they bring the new V8, without signignificant power increase? Only because of torque? Surely not. While competitors as the SL 55 and - most important - the new Gallardo show up with a massive 500 hp, Ferrari simply can't stand back. So I guess 460 to 475 hp are far more believable. I'm sure there also will be some recognizable changes in the design. New front bumper and different wheels are most likely. But different to the statement above, I don't expect the headlight units change from body colour to black. That would be the other way round as in case of the upgrade from 550 to 575. I can't believe that. To me a slight change in the headlight design is the best bet. If there will be a change in the interior design I cannot say, but as I don't like the Modena's interior very much, I hope there will be.
    I think we can compare the current situation to that back in 1993/94, when Ferrari changed the 348 GTB into the 355 Berlinetta. Here we had basically the same chassis at both cars, but with new looks at the 355 and heavily upgraded technical components. We had a strong power increase from 320 hp in the last 348 to 380 hp in the 355. 60 hp more, so that would make at least 460 hp in the redesigned Modena. When they changed the 355 into the 360, we had only little power increase of 20 hp, but a totally new chassis.
    According to that experience I expect the following for the near future of the entry level Ferrari: a redesigned Modena in spring 2004, with new 4.2 litre V8 with 460 to 475 hp. Its name could be 420 Modena, what sounds more familiar to me than 360 Modena GTB or 360 M Modena for example. That car will be on the market until autumn 2005 (Frankfurt motorshow) or spring 2006 (Geneva). 2006 is more likely, as I expect the all new Maranello with around 600 hp in 2005. Then the Modena will be replaced by an all new V8-Ferrari with totally new chassis. Engine will basically remain the same, most probably with small displacement increase from 4.2 to 4.3, then called 430 ... (Monza ?) with close to 500 hp.
    One last word to the successor of the 456 GT: I don't see why they should call it 460 something. With a capacity of its detuned Enzo V12 of about 5.8 litres, a name like 580 something (Siena would sound nice) seems far more common to me.

    Best regards

    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?

    hi rossi,

    thanks a lot for that sharp breakdown of the situation.

    are you connected with the factory or the german import company in any way?
    or are you thinking logically?

    best whishes, floren.

    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?

    Hi Floren,

    thank you for your kind words.
    I'd wish I had some connections directly to Ferrari, unfortunately I have not
    I just thought about the situation last night and these were my thoughts. And I get some infos from a German dealer.
    Anyway, I'm pretty sure that the timetable of the V8-Ferrari will look similar to what I have described.
    And it is to some strong personal interest to me

    Best wishes

    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?

    Thanks for your very interesting thoughts, rossi.
    I also believe that the new Modena will stay below 500 HP, something which I actually don't like.
    Most car companies plan massive power increases for their cars, Ferrari would be very well advised to put at least 500 HP into their new Modena. I'm not sure Ferrari will be able to keep the weight down, especially if they want to be able to officially deliver cars to certain markets.

    Right now I'm watching very closely the development of the new 460 2+2 seater (or whatever the name of the updated 456), so the Modena is actually of no importance to me. But I like Ferrari very much and I hope they'll do the right thing.

    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?

    Thanks, interesting analysis .

    Quote:
    name like 580 something (Siena would sound nice) seems far more common to me.



    I know they can't use the name Siena because Toyota has Van by that name. Like BMW couldn't use MX5 because of Mazada's MX5 for their 4.6i.

    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?

    hopefully they aren't going to call it 580 rimini or 580 vatican city

    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?

    How about 580 Stefano Stefani

    just kidding...

    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?

    hey rc,

    are you going to have one of the new 2 + 2?
    i'm sure the porsche guard would let you pass when you jump out of that one

    but; what do you mean with your thoughts about their weight in relation to their export abilities?

    best whishes, floren.

    p.s.
    do you know if there is a kid-car from ferrari WITHOUT any engine?

    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?

    Quote:
    hey rc,

    are you going to have one of the new 2 + 2?
    i'm sure the porsche guard would let you pass when you jump out of that one

    but; what do you mean with your thoughts about their weight in relation to their export abilities?

    best whishes, floren.

    p.s.
    do you know if there is a kid-car from ferrari WITHOUT any engine?



    The 460(?) might be one of my choices, right now I have the Porsche "GT", the Lamborghini Gallardo and maybe the new SL successor on my list. I have to make a final decision in about 2-3 years, so I'm pretty relaxed now.

    Reducing or even keeping weight is difficult because of safety standards on certain markets.
    It is indeed possible to reduce weight but only by using high tech materials and therefore increasing production cost.

    Ferrari Kid car without engine? I'm not quite sure what you mean. The car on my Avatar has no engine, just pedals. There are also other Ferrari models available for kids (pedals only) like the F40 and the 360 Spider as far as I remember.

    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?

    thanks for oyur informations.

    i meant exactly what you wrote. a pedal powered one..

    thanks, best whishes

    floren

    Re: 360 Modena Facelift?


     
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