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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    I have an option for a 812 superfast who would be delivered in 2 months..I own right now a 488 GTB one year old and 1,700 kms.

    I have to give my 488 + 170,000 euros to get the 812.Do you think is it worth?

    I am also afraid of the depreciation 812 could have in 2 years...(minimum 120,000 euro)

    What do you think guys?


    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    emi47:

    I have an option for a 812 superfast who would be delivered in 2 months..I own right now a 488 GTB one year old and 1,700 kms.

    I have to give my 488 + 170,000 euros to get the 812.Do you think is it worth?

    I am also afraid of the depreciation 812 could have in 2 years...(minimum 120,000 euro)

    What do you think guys?

    Apples and oranges. Mid - engined V8 turbo  vs front engined naturally  V12. You should decide on the basis of the kind of car you enjoy rather than price point/ depreciation. having said that, remarkably the depreciation on front engine Ferrari V12s has been very low on F12s and the 812 market is tight so far.


    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    emi47:

    I have an option for a 812 superfast who would be delivered in 2 months..I own right now a 488 GTB one year old and 1,700 kms.

    I have to give my 488 + 170,000 euros to get the 812.Do you think is it worth?

    I am also afraid of the depreciation 812 could have in 2 years...(minimum 120,000 euro)

    What do you think guys?

     

    they say ''when you ask''...different cars, different philosophy.yes

    488 is about to tank because of the coming track oriented version, 812 is new...depreciation wise, 488 is on the downside.


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    emi47:

    I have an option for a 812 superfast who would be delivered in 2 months..I own right now a 488 GTB one year old and 1,700 kms.

    I have to give my 488 + 170,000 euros to get the 812.Do you think is it worth?

    I am also afraid of the depreciation 812 could have in 2 years...(minimum 120,000 euro)

    What do you think guys?

    It depends on how you drive your cars. If you prefer the more dynamic and precise driving experience I would keep the 488. If you primarily enjoy special engines the 812 is a great choice as well. Economically, keeping the 488 will be the far (!) better choice. 


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    here is my baby:::))))


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    does not tickle my pickle....indecision


    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    This will certainly be a rocket devil


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    I didn't realize that there is such nice weather at the moment at the Ring .....


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    Gnil:

    I didn't realize that there is such nice weather at the moment at the Ring .....

    SmileySmileySmiley, full of snow yesterday


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    martini964:
    Gnil:

    I didn't realize that there is such nice weather at the moment at the Ring .....

    SmileySmileySmiley, full of snow yesterday

    must of melted this morning . And the leaves forgot to fall this year .


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    The 488 just doesn't do it for me . I thought the speciale would change this , but it doesn't . The car is actually boring . Kind of a bad face lift from the 458 , trying to put some angles to make it a bit different , but the result is that it makes the car look like it was designed in one day from a bunch of uninformed  students angry


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    The 720s moved things on so far ahead of Ferrari. 


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    +1 and we're not even talking LT......yet


    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    Gnil:

    The 488 just doesn't do it for me . I thought the speciale would change this , but it doesn't . The car is actually boring . Kind of a bad face lift from the 458 , trying to put some angles to make it a bit different , but the result is that it makes the car look like it was designed in one day from a bunch of uninformed  students angry


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    those pics show a slightly modded 488 shell with slightly larger air ducts, the final car will look very different...


    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    EnglishManInNY:

    The 720s moved things on so far ahead of Ferrari. 

    Yeah...into Darth Vader design land... Smiley

    Sorry but design-wise, I would take the 488 over the 720 anytime. The 720 looks more exotic but this doesn't have to be necessarily a plus.

    The above photos show the facelift, not the Speciale...I think.


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    RC:
    EnglishManInNY:

    The 720s moved things on so far ahead of Ferrari. 

    Yeah...into Darth Vader design land... Smiley

    Sorry but design-wise, I would take the 488 over the 720 anytime. The 720 looks more exotic but this doesn't have to be necessarily a plus.

    The above photos show the facelift, not the Speciale...I think.


    There won't be a facelift of the 488, the next V8 will be a complete new design. So I'd say the pictures above are definitely the Speciale successor.


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    Rossi:
    RC:
    EnglishManInNY:

    The 720s moved things on so far ahead of Ferrari. 

    Yeah...into Darth Vader design land... Smiley

    Sorry but design-wise, I would take the 488 over the 720 anytime. The 720 looks more exotic but this doesn't have to be necessarily a plus.

    The above photos show the facelift, not the Speciale...I think.


    There won't be a facelift of the 488, the next V8 will be a complete new design. So I'd say the pictures above are definitely the Speciale successor.

    Are you sure? A 488 customer I know has been asked by his dealer if he is interested in the facelift (2018). Smiley


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    RC:
    Rossi:
    RC:
    EnglishManInNY:

    The 720s moved things on so far ahead of Ferrari. 

    Yeah...into Darth Vader design land... Smiley

    Sorry but design-wise, I would take the 488 over the 720 anytime. The 720 looks more exotic but this doesn't have to be necessarily a plus.

    The above photos show the facelift, not the Speciale...I think.


    There won't be a facelift of the 488, the next V8 will be a complete new design. So I'd say the pictures above are definitely the Speciale successor.

    Are you sure? A 488 customer I know has been asked by his dealer if he is interested in the facelift (2018). Smiley


    Hmm, nothing is sure I guess, now that the jumper has taken over... Smiley

    But a facelift for the 488 would be way too early, maybe the dealer meant the hardcore version, when he talked about the facelift. So my bet is still on the Speciale successor.


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    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    Rossi:
    RC:
    Rossi:
    RC:
    EnglishManInNY:

    The 720s moved things on so far ahead of Ferrari. 

    Yeah...into Darth Vader design land... Smiley

    Sorry but design-wise, I would take the 488 over the 720 anytime. The 720 looks more exotic but this doesn't have to be necessarily a plus.

    The above photos show the facelift, not the Speciale...I think.


    There won't be a facelift of the 488, the next V8 will be a complete new design. So I'd say the pictures above are definitely the Speciale successor.

    Are you sure? A 488 customer I know has been asked by his dealer if he is interested in the facelift (2018). Smiley


    Hmm, nothing is sure I guess, now that the jumper has taken over... Smiley

    But a facelift for the 488 would be way too early, maybe the dealer meant the hardcore version, when he talked about the facelift. So my bet is still on the Speciale successor.


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    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

     

    Are you still interested in the 488 or do you already have one? Smiley


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    Though still camouflaged, first pic with the final shape.

    488VS.jpeg


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    Looks like a big improvement on the front end over the 488 and Speciale.


    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    noone1:

    Looks like a big improvement on the front end over the 488 and Speciale.


    Especially at the front there has always been a big improvement of the front of all special versions, just think of Challenge Stradale, Scuderia or Speciale. So I guess the 488VS will be no exception here. Smiley


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    lots of carbon parts, also the rims. over 700hp, engine and car 10% lighter than GTB engine/car. 'track sound' they say....



    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    Embarrassing for Ferrari to have a highlight slide saying "Highest Utlisation of Carbon Fibre on a Range car" then show this as being a few body panels and interior trim when even their sister company Alfa Romeo have had a carbon tub in a mid engined car costing probably a fifth the price of this "new" model for over 4 years now smiley


    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    You think this car will be offered in manual?


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    ISUK:

    Embarrassing for Ferrari to have a highlight slide saying "Highest Utlisation of Carbon Fibre on a Range car" then show this as being a few body panels and interior trim when even their sister company Alfa Romeo have had a carbon tub in a mid engined car costing probably a fifth the price of this "new" model for over 4 years now smiley


    Iain, the whole sentence on the slide was "Highest Utilisation of Carbon Fibre on a Range car from Ferrari".
    The last two words were written in an extremely small font, so that you could not read it from behind, where the pic was taken. Smiley


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    Re: 488 GTB/GTS

    the car will be shown to the dealers today. should be a winner!


     
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