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    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    KresoF1:
    reginos:

    Wide car with very long hood. Something for the highway not for the challenging B roads and the mountains.


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    "Form follows function"

    Again I diagree with you. 991 Turbo S is with 1880mm not too wide? What about Huracan, 458 or forthcoming R8(which is wider then AMG GT)? Even Macan is pretty wide and you priased its handling...

    This is why my favourite is the narrow body (well compared to the others) Carrera S RWD.

    The Macan I assessed as a SUV/small saloon, not as a B road king and sports car rival.

    To repeat what I wrote few weeks ago-new AMG GT is marginally smaller then SLS AMG size wise(in lenght, it is almost as wide and hight is aslo almost the same).

    The look might be very nice,  but the proportions with the long hood relative to the driver don't help driving on narrow sweeping roads. That was my point. I would prefer a more compact design away from the 50s SL models.


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    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    I understand your last point pretty well. Although, I do not agree with it.

    BTW, is AMG GT looking big in these latest mule pics?

     


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    KresoF1:

    I understand your last point pretty well. Although, I do not agree with it.

    BTW, is AMG GT looking big in these latest mule pics?

    No, it doesn't look big, more like 991 size or near.

    The driver sits too far back compared to the front of the car, which is not ideal for some roads.

     

     


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    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    Its for shure an amazing car but as the name and also now the interior implicate its a GT  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_tourer and from the layout as Reginos stated not perfect for B roads.


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    Doesn't the proportions technically make it nearly a mid engined car?


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2012 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab. Range Rover V8 on order June14 - GT3 or Huracan to add next......decisions decisions decisions.....


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    EnglishManInNY:

    Doesn't the proportions technically make it nearly a mid engined car?

    You are right.

    In same language you are sitting too close to front end of the car in Huracan for example.

    And of course, you are sitting perfectly in the middle in 911...Smiley


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    The Lamborghini is a "cab forward" car (similarly the 12C and the P1) and the Mercedes is a "cab rearward" one, in design parlance.


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    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    KresoF1:
    noone1:

    Looks like AMG are Lamborghini fans. Jesus Christ is that center console big. Am I the only one who thinks McLaren totally nailed it with it's super thin and spartan center console area?

    And where are AC controls on 650S? On doors... BTW, IRIS in Mclaren is a joke IMHO. Specially in this price class.

    Yes, on the doors. Why is that a big deal?

    I wouldn't say it's a joke any more than anything else. It's Android based. Is what it is. 2.0 works fine from what I'm told. That said, name any car in any price range that has a good infotainment system comparable to a $400 phone. I haven't used the 918 system yet, probably never will, but I have no doubt in my mind that it sucks compared to an iPhone with a screen mirror. And that's a $1M car.

    I think we can all agree infotainment systems, no matter what car or price, are all worthless overpriced shit.

    iPhone 5S/N5 >> any infotainment system made in the next 5-10 years.


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    reginos:
    KresoF1:

    I understand your last point pretty well. Although, I do not agree with it.

    BTW, is AMG GT looking big in these latest mule pics?

    No, it doesn't look big, more like 991 size or near.

    The driver sits too far back compared to the front of the car, which is not ideal for some roads.

     

    Is sitting far back ever ideal?


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    noone1:

    Is sitting far back ever ideal?

     It's pretty fun in a Caterham.  When you drift the car, you move around quite alot sitting on the rear axle Smiley


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    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    so a car for drifters and poseurs 


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    noone1:
    reginos:
    KresoF1:

    I understand your last point pretty well. Although, I do not agree with it.

    BTW, is AMG GT looking big in these latest mule pics?

    No, it doesn't look big, more like 991 size or near.

    The driver sits too far back compared to the front of the car, which is not ideal for some roads.

     

    Is sitting far back ever ideal?

    Sometimes in the classroom Smiley


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    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    KresoF1:

    Hint for overall shape.

    IMHO AMG GT is the best looking Mercedes car ever and I will for sure get one.

     

    the most beautiful  as well as most extreme cab rearward design of all time, IMO, the 1964 Cheetah racer : 

    http://www.cheetahcars.com/index.htm

    http://www.cheetahcars.com/factory.htm

     


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    great looking interior imo.

     


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    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    In real flesh the car looks really wide. Seen it many times and always its kind of an appearance. 


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzANwS9_qzc

     


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    Doesn't sound v AMG surprise


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2012 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab. Range Rover V8 on order June14 - GT3 or Huracan to add next......decisions decisions decisions.....


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    EnglishManInNY:

    Doesn't sound v AMG surprise

    It does! The car actually sounds great - especially intake-sound is excellent!


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    Lars997:
    EnglishManInNY:

    Doesn't sound v AMG surprise

    It does! The car actually sounds great - especially intake-sound is excellent!

    Agreed. AMG GT sounds way better then 991 Turbo S for example.


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    All I can say is - I hope there is a sports exhaust option. I hear tires more than anything else. The best sound is at the end when it's going back to base. Not when it's 9/10s round the track which is v disappointing...


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2012 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab. Range Rover V8 on order June14 - GT3 or Huracan to add next......decisions decisions decisions.....


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    KresoF1:
    Lars997:
    EnglishManInNY:

    Doesn't sound v AMG surprise

    It does! The car actually sounds great - especially intake-sound is excellent!

    Agreed. AMG GT sounds way better then 991 Turbo S for example.

    Noise has never been a Porsche strong point except the V10.

    Since so many buyers value this aspect, Porsche should do something about it without further delay. I mean so many comment about the noise first and then about the substance. Most recent example, the eulogies about the F Type exhaust noise that occupies 90% of the write ups and comments.


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    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    reginos:

    Noise has never been a Porsche strong point except the V10.

     Air-cooled 911 sound is among the most iconic in motoring history. 

    Here are some rally cars sounding good:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n6HB0AgS3U


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    73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    Now the second half of the EVO GT3 car of the year clip proves Porsche can make a good sounding (NA) engine! TTs sound more like a missile than an engine which isn't a bad thing or a great thing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dss44VBDN8


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2012 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab. Range Rover V8 on order June14 - GT3 or Huracan to add next......decisions decisions decisions.....


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    1. the AMG GT is still a pre-production vehicle

    2. I have no complaints about the sound

    3. this video is even better

     

    devil


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't hear any exhaust sounds in either of those videos.


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    noone1:

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't hear any exhaust sounds in either of those videos.


    Speaker broken? Smiley Smiley Smiley


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    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    Rossi:
    noone1:

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't hear any exhaust sounds in either of those videos.


    Speaker broken? Smiley Smiley Smiley

    Exhaust sound will be included in the optional Mercedes cell phone App - Sound Mbrace. That way you can hear the exhaust sound in or out of your new Mercedes anytime you want to. It replaces the noise from conventional automobile exhaust systems.Smiley ........Porsche has something coming also with Porsche Predictive Exhaust option. It will be a step up in price from Porsche Sport Exhaust. The faster you go the more noise it will make....Smiley



    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    Kreso how close are these renderings?

    http://www.autobild.de/bilder/vorschau-mercedes-amg-gt-und-bmw-6er-5090698.html#bild1


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2012 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab. Range Rover V8 on order June14 - GT3 or Huracan to add next......decisions decisions decisions.....


    Re: GT AMG tests at the Ring

    Pretty close. But, some details on these renderings are not accurate.

     
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