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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    out of coma and leaving hospital is good news .. it's the start at least.


    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    Good news! Now, it is just a slow, steady process of getting as close to normal as possible, whatever that new 'normal' may be.

    All the best Michael kiss


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    Just in time to see his national team in the world cup....Just kidding...he has a long road ahead of him. But I was really touched by the German team messages saying that they want to win the cup for him...and days later this great news comes! 

    All the best Michael...!


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    What a nice surprise for me to wake up to. Best wishes for him and his family and for as full a recovery as possible.


    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    Guys, take these news with a grain of salt, this is the press speaking not the doctors or the family, in his situation out of the coma doesn't mean like in the movies went the patient wakes up from a sleep and everything comes back in minutes, there are many consciousness states, and his is likely to be very low, maybe reacts to a stimulus or two but not much more IMO, still bedridden and barely awake. There is probably not much more that they can do in the hospital than as an outpatient, since his life constants seem stable and that why he is likely leaving the hospital, also this will make it much easier on the family. Also after what he has recovered so far, there isn't much room for recovery anymore which will very limited. I really how I'm wrong but we all know how the press is surprise


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    We have to think positive. Let's be honest we all thought there were not going to be ANY good news. 

    Swiss news has it that he is in Lausanne for treatment.


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    He's been moved to a rehab facility from what I've heard. I wish him the best as he has a long road ahead of him.


    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    He is is my local city hospital . This is not an outpatient / rehab clinic , but a huge university hospital .


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    Carlos from Spain:

    . Also after what he has recovered so far, there isn't much room for recovery anymore which will very limited. I really how I'm wrong but we all know how the press is surprise

    This is very bad news. I understand that his recovery so far is that his life is not in danger, which is something, but the motion and mental deficits remain. Alive but in vegetative state is a terrible prospect for his loved ones.


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    Gnil:

    He is is my local city hospital . This is not an outpatient / rehab clinic , but a huge university hospital .

    Hmmm, it sounds like the reports of him being discharged from the hospital are a bit misleading.


    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    Here it is :

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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    Two helipads - how very "international rescue"!


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    bridggar:

    Two helipads - how very "international rescue"!

    What you see is only the '' above '' the surface building . Then you have the same hight as the taller building going under ground .

    Michael is somewhere in there , in a completely private section .


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    I read on Eurosport now that Schumacher is fully awaken from coma and responds to touches and can hear voices!

    But, as it is a reprint from the Bild newspaper, should we believe that?


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    Wow, what great news!
    I understand what you say Carlos, just hoping all the best for Michael and his relatives.
     


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    This is fantastic news kiss even though of course we need to keep in mind what Carlos is saying.

     


    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    While this may be viewed as positive news, the press, at times, takes much liberty with language and conclusions.  He may have emerged from a coma, but that state might be very close to a semi-permanent vegetative state and with minimal response to stimuli.  The length of time between the accident and the transfer to another healthcare facility is of concern.  


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    reginos:

    I read on Eurosport now that Schumacher is fully awaken from coma and responds to touches and can hear voices!

    But, as it is a reprint from the Bild newspaper, should we believe that?

    Right, one thing is the original bit of info and another is how the press words the little information they have in order to make it more apealing for business, and most are just ecoing each other like parrots.

    I guarantee you he is far from fully awake, that is extremly unlikely to happen like that given from what we have known all these five months. He may be "tecnically" out of a coma, but may just be on a barely concious "concious" state, and the press may interpret "out-of-coma" to be awakening like we do from sleep in the moring, into full conciousness.

    In low levels of conciousness like stupor the body will react to painfull stimuli for example, noises, etc but pretty much vegetative besides that, there are also unconcious reflexes that may give the impresion that the patient is "awake inside" like when grabbig his hand he may graspe your hand back but can be done at an unconcious level. It gives familiy members a false sense of hope that he is in there aware of everything reacting to the hand but he is not.

    I don't what to be a pesimist, I'm being realistic, just don't want to let the press give false hopes to all of us longing for good news on his recovery. The press is more often than not, irresponsible and heratless and does not treat information rigurously. They probably just hear that they are moving him to a hospital closer to home and that he is tecnically not comatose (since he responds to some stimuli), and ran with it from there that he is fully awake and now going to do rehabilitation, when in reality they meust have been giving him passive rehabilitation in order to prevent as much muscle atrophy and physical deterioration as posible as a result of him not moving for five months.

    The fact that he reacts to acustic and touch stimuli is good news, but may still be in severe concious level state in the Glasgow Scale. Lets hope he regains as much conciousness as posible, right now physical recovery is secondary IMO, conciousness is the most important thing but given the time that has passed and only being reactive to tocuh and sound so far is very discouraging, any further recuperation from here on is going to be slow and difficult... and limited Smiley

    At least he has got the best care money can pay for for sure and the care of hs family, so lets hope...


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    Very vivid and understandable description and of course not very promising surprise


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    Thanks Carlos for your analysis, you are mirroring my own thoughts. After more than five months in coma, it would be misleading to think of Schumacher walking out of the hospital and communicating with his familiy. Smiley

    When I read the news about Schumacher I often think of Roy from Siegfried and Roy and his long way back into life after his nearly fatal accident on stage in Las Vegas. I guess the situations could be quite similar.


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    Just hope he will be on a recovery road now after he is now stabled...  life is very fragile....  enjoy life, but think about the love ones around you....  hope he has a strong family to support each other....


    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    IMHO, Schumacher would have been better off if he had not survived his accident. It is sad to say but, to be honest, If it had been me, I would not want to live like this. There's no hope here, just misery and pain.

    I would not want to live for the rest of my life in a hospital bed with such a low level of consciousness. And let's face it, after all this time, if he's not able to talk and react to others, there's no way he's going to recover even a third of his capacities (I might be wrong but I don't think so). 


    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    amazon:

    IMHO, Schumacher would have been better off if he had not survived his accident. It is sad to say but, to be honest, If it had been me, I would not want to live like this. There's no hope here, just misery and pain.

    I would say that following this terrible twist of fate in December 2013, Schumacher would have been better off if he died on a race circuit a heroic driver's death, and be remembered like Gilles or Senna.


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    reginos:
    amazon:

    IMHO, Schumacher would have been better off if he had not survived his accident. It is sad to say but, to be honest, If it had been me, I would not want to live like this. There's no hope here, just misery and pain.

    I would say that following this terrible twist of fate in December 2013, Schumacher would have been better off if he died on a race circuit a heroic driver's death, and be remembered like Gilles or Senna.

    Sad but true, I agree. SmileySmiley


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    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    I had a friend who spent 6 months in a coma after a high speed accident on a german autobahn and later managed to fully recover, being able t walk talk work at the same job and drive...later he died of an unrelated illness

    I wish all the best to Michael


    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    truth is, no one really knows how/when/if a brain recovers from injury, and there is no treatment for brain injury.


    Re: Michael Schumacher in Coma

    If anyone can do it HE CAN!  (and his doctors)  Keep fighting Michael!

    PS - as long as insurance pays the bills and my family does not have to KEEP ME ALIVE!  I am not one of those who gives up that easily.  Life may not be the same but it is always worth fighting for. 

    Saw an incredible documentary about the downhill racer Bill Johnson who also had a horrific skiing accident. 


     
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