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    does the dealer have the right..

    ... to cancel the warranty of the car if i install the tubi exhaust on my Gallardo???? he told me that and i was kinda uppset... any clue?

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

    I think the answer depends, especially on your local laws as well. The only thing that would/should negate a warranty, would be if you removed or replaced the catalytic converters. A simple cat-back system should not negate your warranty.

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

    i am not touching the cats... just want to install a tubi exhaust after the cats

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

    try to contact lamborghini HQ..
    if it's the same policy like with Audi cars, yes he can do this ;(

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

    What exactly does the warranty say?

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

    I think Ferrari deals as severely with their customers, no?

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    Rossi said:
    I think Ferrari deals as severely with their customers, no?



    Warranty voided if you do anything to the car that is not by an authorised dealer and or product....

    i neverfelt that cars such as the Fs and Lambos should need to be modded...they are great the way they are from factory

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

    In the US, a warranty cannot be voided, unless the manufacturer can show that the mods directly caused the problem being address with the warranty issue.

    Don't know how this may differ in your country...

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

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    95jersey said:
    The only thing that would/should negate a warranty, would be if you removed or replaced the catalytic converters. A simple cat-back system should not negate your warranty.



    I suspect your opinion is based purely on what you would LIKE the situation to be, not on an objective assessment of how courts might decide if push came to shove.

    If fitting an after-market exhaust system not properly laid out for the car resulted either in:
    a) engine damage resulting from the engine running under the wrong operating parameters, or
    b) the car spontaneously combusting due to inflammable components or fluids being subjected to higher temperatures than in the original setup,
    do you seriously think this is a case for a warranty claim?

    If you do, don't be too surprised if the manufacturer concerned might think differently, or any judge called on to finally decide on the matter might take a less than sympathetic view of the merits of the claim.

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

    i know that ferrari dont void a warranty for cars with TUBI exhaust . i find the us system to be fair , claims that are directly resulting from the mods is not covered , but for example if you have a defective shock absorber ,you dont replace it under warranty because there is an after market exhaust?. i call this bad faith

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    dhayek said:
    i know that ferrari dont void a warranty for cars with TUBI exhaust . i find the us system to be fair , claims that are directly resulting from the mods is not covered , but for example if you have a defective shock absorber ,you dont replace it under warranty because there is an after market exhaust?. i call this bad faith



    In my reply I took it for granted that "voiding" the warranty would be restricted to claims attributed more or less directly to the use of non-OEM items.

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

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    dhayek said:
    ... to cancel the warranty of the car if i install the tubi exhaust on my Gallardo???? he told me that and i was kinda uppset... any clue?



    Do you know if the dealer sells any after market exhaust? Has the dealer install any after market exhaust? Typically the dealer is not the one offering the warranty. It is the manufacturer or its affiliate selling the car. As you indicated above, if a warranted item is defective and not caused by an after market installed equipment, then your warranty is good.

    On the other hand, if the after market equipment caused the failure of other OEM parts then it would not be covered UNLESS the dealers sold the AME or installed it.

    My fee is a tray of Baklava.

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    nberry said:
    My fee is a tray of Baklava.



    You forgot to mention that it has to be accompanied by a large cup of Starbucks' best.

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

    Quote:
    nberry said:
    Quote:
    dhayek said:
    ... to cancel the warranty of the car if i install the tubi exhaust on my Gallardo???? he told me that and i was kinda uppset... any clue?



    Do you know if the dealer sells any after market exhaust? Has the dealer install any after market exhaust? Typically the dealer is not the one offering the warranty. It is the manufacturer or its affiliate selling the car. As you indicated above, if a warranted item is defective and not caused by an after market installed equipment, then your warranty is good.

    On the other hand, if the after market equipment caused the failure of other OEM parts then it would not be covered UNLESS the dealers sold the AME or installed it.

    My fee is a tray of Baklava.


    thanks nick.. i will send the balklava to the parliament and distribute it on your behalf...
    that dealer also proposed me few months back a quicksilver exhaust , saying it will keep the warranty, but a tubi will void the warranty i felt insulted , does he feels i am ignorant? bad faith..

    Re: does the dealer have the right..

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    fritz said:
    Quote:
    95jersey said:
    The only thing that would/should negate a warranty, would be if you removed or replaced the catalytic converters. A simple cat-back system should not negate your warranty.



    I suspect your opinion is based purely on what you would LIKE the situation to be, not on an objective assessment of how courts might decide if push came to shove.

    If fitting an after-market exhaust system not properly laid out for the car resulted either in:
    a) engine damage resulting from the engine running under the wrong operating parameters, or
    b) the car spontaneously combusting due to inflammable components or fluids being subjected to higher temperatures than in the original setup,
    do you seriously think this is a case for a warranty claim?

    If you do, don't be too surprised if the manufacturer concerned might think differently, or any judge called on to finally decide on the matter might take a less than sympathetic view of the merits of the claim.



    I am speaking for experience on modding my Z06 and then taking it to the dealer for service. The statement made by my dealer was that it would not void the warranty unless it actually caused the problem. Which in somewhat inline with what you are saying. If you cars burns to the ground becuase you have nitrous, that should not be covered, but if the window motor breaks and they try to void your warranty because of an exhaust, that is not legal in the US.

     
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