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    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

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    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    Gnil:
    Wonderbar:

    Labels also insult people's innate human intelligence.  Millions of people live good lives, have their own needs and make sound judgements about matters of importance.  They know that, for example, Fox News is not all a bunch of right wing nuts, and that CNN is not a group of crazy weird liberals.  They know that Republicans have good and bad ideas, just as Democrats do.  I ask that posters please respect those people and their choices.

    And as Forrest Gump says "That's all I have to say about that."

    I was starting to wonder about the core base of RT members ;  it is entertaining  to read , but at some stages it does get pretty scary to think that they actually believe what they write   Smiley ,   at least some still have some good sense Smiley


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    Boy!  A brief comment about current events and hot debate ensues. Good!

    Thanks SpyderIdol, JimFlat6 and Mike - you clearly see the world without filters. I hope more will soon get a clear view.


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    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    RC:
     

    I forgot to mention that I would like the Republicans to win but currently, all their presidential candidates kind of suck. I like Jeb Bush, he seems to be down to earth and unlike other people, ... So yes, politicians have to be liars and they have to be able to deceit, it is part of their job description but I prefer politicians to lie to other politicians and not to the public. Smiley

    There's a reason you feel that way about Jeb Bush vs. the rest of the Republican field:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/opinion/campaign-stops/all-politicians-lie-some-lie-more-than-others.html


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    ..and here is why the NY Times (AKA "Pravda-on-the-Hudson") would prefer Jeb:

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/12/17/jeb-refuses-to-back-trump-over-clinton-in-cnn-interview/


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    It would be impossible to fact check Hillary as she creates such a volume of half truths, lies and deceptions that no one can keep up with them all.  Now she has the FBI investigating her, maybe they can sort through it all.

    And who checks politicafact? US news and world report studied them and found substantial bias. So it's just another media organ of the DNC. 

    See www.politifactbias.com

     


    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    OK, guys...back to Mission E...we have other (non-car related threads) where we can discuss politics. Thanks (and my apology to the other users!).

    We (wife, daughter, me) the i3 last weekend. Afterwards, we commented a lot about the car and came to the conclusion that it is a very interesting concept and quite nice. We all liked the interior, we liked the rear, we all hated the front (main reason why neither of us would ever want to drive this car). For 100 bucks per month (lease), definitely worth a shot but unfortunately there aren't such (good) offers in Germany yet.


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    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    Welcome to the dark (silent) side


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    Itsme:

    Welcome to the dark (silent) side

    I already know this (dark) side from the E mode of the Cayenne Hybrid, the i8 and the Tesla S. Smiley

    So far, I like the Tesla S85 best.

    Btw: I would never get one, unless I have to. Smiley


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    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    Very silent in this thread.

    So here are some fresh news:

    - there will be two mission e models - internal model J1 - basis and turbo

    Basis model will reach 500 km and turbo will have 600 hp. The turbo has not such a range as the basis model.

    Price for the basis model 70.000€ and for the turbo 140.000€

    Porsche will not earn money with the first generation of J1(mission e).

     


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    That's quite a difference price wise between the basic version and turbo. Why is it x2 the price? When will it be launched?


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    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    Interesting facts, thanks!

    Wonder why they decide to name the performance version "Turbo". A bit weird for an EV istn't it? About time for Porsche to phase out the "Turbo" name in general since it's nothing special anymore


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    Lukas:

    Interesting facts, thanks!

    Wonder why they decide to name the performance version "Turbo". A bit weird for an EV istn't it? About time for Porsche to phase out the "Turbo" name in general since it's nothing special anymore

    I would have thought it would be becuase it has a turbo charged engine in addition to the electric motors Smiley

     


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    Because it's Turbocharged indecision

    I guess this version as the turbo-charging of the battery and constant amp throughout the speed range......I am excited by this car! 


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    Sorry about confusing with "turbo" - it will be the high end model as today turbo models. I don´t know how it will be called. The car should be on sale late 2019.

    The high difference in price,  is because the 600 hp version needs different technology. Cooling is a large problem. As I was told, also the range of 500 km is not possible due to higher horse power engines. 

    Interesting is that Porsche don´t calculate any profit. Only some extras offered by the Exclusive Department.


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    crayphile:
    Lukas:

    Interesting facts, thanks!

    Wonder why they decide to name the performance version "Turbo". A bit weird for an EV istn't it? About time for Porsche to phase out the "Turbo" name in general since it's nothing special anymore

    I would have thought it would be becuase it has a turbo charged engine in addition to the electric motors Smiley

     

    Then it would make sense. But AFAIK the mission E is Electrical only and hence no Turbo. The only place they mention the word "Turbo" is in terms of some tech for Turbo charging the batteries Smiley


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    ALDO:

    Sorry about confusing with "turbo" - it will be the high end model as today turbo models. I don´t know how it will be called. The car should be on sale late 2019.

    The high difference in price,  is because the 600 hp version needs different technology. Cooling is a large problem. As I was told, also the range of 500 km is not possible due to higher horse power engines. 

    Interesting is that Porsche don´t calculate any profit. Only some extras offered by the Exclusive Department.

    Smiley Thanks for the clarification


    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    Interesting approach to cover the range reality and also the performance side with 2 models.. 


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    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    ALDO:

    Sorry about confusing with "turbo" - it will be the high end model as today turbo models. I don´t know how it will be called. The car should be on sale late 2019.

    The high difference in price,  is because the 600 hp version needs different technology. Cooling is a large problem. As I was told, also the range of 500 km is not possible due to higher horse power engines. 

    Interesting is that Porsche don´t calculate any profit. Only some extras offered by the Exclusive Department.

    It will be following Tesla's business model.  Smiley


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    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    2019 is a long long long time away......


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    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    fritz:
    ALDO:

    Sorry about confusing with "turbo" - it will be the high end model as today turbo models. I don´t know how it will be called. The car should be on sale late 2019.

    The high difference in price,  is because the 600 hp version needs different technology. Cooling is a large problem. As I was told, also the range of 500 km is not possible due to higher horse power engines. 

    Interesting is that Porsche don´t calculate any profit. Only some extras offered by the Exclusive Department.

    It will be following Tesla's business model.  Smiley

    .... except if you are critical of the car you will still be allowed to buy one... Smiley


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    Re: World premiere for Porsche Mission E

    Not quite a Mission E or even a Tesla, but on the electric car front; I have seen used Nissan Leaf now selling in the 8 to 10k range. Seems like a very attractive price if it meets your needs.  blush


     
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