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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Enzo II:

    Yep, looks good

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    PCCB with red callipers? Smiley
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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Rossi:
    Enzo II:

    Yep, looks good

    6E38E5EA-ACCA-4F06-9616-498D09AEE789.jpeg

     

    PCCB with red callipers? Smiley
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    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

     

    Who said PCCB? Perhaps optional, but the picture clearly shows non PCCB brake...Not a caliper nor a brake disk.


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Yup!!  PCCB with red calipers on Speedster II concept.


    Re: 991 Speedster

    steelested:

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    I wounder who/what starded this brewster green trend from Porsche...? Could it be that crazy Swedethat ordered it for his GT2 RS?SmileySmiley


    Re: 991 Speedster

    From Paris:

    Full gallery here.


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Sounds like it’s only going to get a tonneau cover for a roof. 

    The spy shots looked more like the spyder roof?

    itll be interesting to see how it pans out 


    Re: 991 Speedster

    Not the prettiest 911 out there....


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    spudgun:

    Not the prettiest 911 out there....

    That’s a lot of ugly just to get that motor. Is see bits of 918 from the side but in a ‘pretender’ kind of way.  I’m disappointed 😔 


    Re: 991 Speedster

    This is still a concept . Wonder how the final product will differ ? 


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Mirrors


    Re: 991 Speedster

    SportCarGroup:
    Rossi:
    Enzo II:

    Yep, looks good

    6E38E5EA-ACCA-4F06-9616-498D09AEE789.jpeg

     

    PCCB with red callipers? Smiley
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    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

     

    Who said PCCB? Perhaps optional, but the picture clearly shows non PCCB brake...Not a caliper nor a brake disk.

    That clearly is a PCCB disk.


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Porker:
    SportCarGroup:
    Rossi:
    Enzo II:

    Yep, looks good

    6E38E5EA-ACCA-4F06-9616-498D09AEE789.jpeg

     

    PCCB with red callipers? Smiley
    --

     

    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

     

    Who said PCCB? Perhaps optional, but the picture clearly shows non PCCB brake...Not a caliper nor a brake disk.

    That clearly is a PCCB disk.

    Yes it is, my bad 


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    SportCarGroup:
    Porker:
    SportCarGroup:
    Rossi:
    Enzo II:

    Yep, looks good

    6E38E5EA-ACCA-4F06-9616-498D09AEE789.jpeg

     

    PCCB with red callipers? Smiley
    --

     

    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

     

    Who said PCCB? Perhaps optional, but the picture clearly shows non PCCB brake...Not a caliper nor a brake disk.

    That clearly is a PCCB disk.

    Yes it is, my bad 


    I guess the calliper is only red, because this is a study. The real deal will follow the (ridiculous) Porsche colour scheme and won't come with those rear mirrors.


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    We're at the point where you can be the fastest or just sound like you're the fastest.



    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.


    Re: 991 Speedster

    The farmer:

    I wounder who/what starded this brewster green trend from Porsche...?

    That is a favorite among the Porsche family for special ordered cars.


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Spoke with my SA today and he advised me that the dealership my get one or two at the most. Three of the dealer 918 owners have asked for one. My SA claims that 1948 cars will be all they will produce and 918 owners have priority. In many respects I am relieved. The thought of driving a manual in this day and age makes me ill. Also, I am pretty sure the dealership was going to charge above MSRP by a considerable amount (though I'm not sure PCNA would allow it for 918 owners). 


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    nberry:

    Spoke with my SA today and he advised me that the dealership my get one or two at the most. Three of the dealer 918 owners have asked for one. My SA claims that 1948 cars will be all they will produce and 918 owners have priority. In many respects I am relieved. The thought of driving a manual in this day and age makes me ill. Also, I am pretty sure the dealership was going to charge above MSRP by a considerable amount (though I'm not sure PCNA would allow it for 918 owners). 

    If the 918 owners are still part of the VIP group, then they are guaranteed cars.  Those typically don't come from the same allocation pool as the cars for non-VIP's.  So, if the dealership gets 1 or 2 alloacations those should be in excess of the cars earmarked for VIP's.  In other words, you should be able to get one if you're first on the non-VIP list (but I would pass like you, if they want to charge over sticker).


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Grant, I raised the issue to him regarding that 918 shouldn't be included in allocations to dealers. He was adamant in stating only 1948 Speedsters will be produced and if a dealers 918 owners take all his allocations he will not receive anymore.yes


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    nberry:

    Grant, I raised the issue to him regarding that 918 shouldn't be included in allocations to dealers. He was adamant in stating only 1948 Speedsters will be produced and if a dealers 918 owners take all his allocations he will not receive anymore.yes

    I don't want to call him a liar, but sounds possible that he's trying to apply a little pressure (and rationale for charging over sticker).


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Everyone knows 1948 Speedsters will be made. That's more than 918 and 911R in total.

    If using 1/3 total as the basis for calculating US allocations, which is usually the case as the US is about 1/3 of the total volume for Porsche, that's 650 cars.

    US might get more than that, say round it up to 700.

    At last count, the number of 918 VIPs left in the program is roughly 200. That's about a car per dealer in the USA, leaving 500 for other people. 

    Now each dealer is assigned different number of allocations, based on their sales history. Some bigger dealers will get more simply because they sold more cars. For some small dealers, their only Speedster allocation maybe for their sole 918 VIP. For others, they might be stuck with one Speedster allocation that no one in their area wants as they don't even have a 918 VIP. And the rest? They will get more Speedster allocations than their 918 VIPs, so they are trying to maximize their gouging of customers for the non-VIP allocations. Reality of US dealers, they lose out on having to sell to 918 VIPs at MSRP so instead of being a good dealer and sell everything at MSRP, they will make up their perceived 'lost profit' on other customers. 

    US dealers are the biggest flipper of cars, they hog the allocations and config them and resale them with giant mark ups, cutting out customers who prefer to get a real allocation and config the cars themselves. 

     


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    There are 189 Porsche dealers in the US. Thus each dealer allocations will be extremely limited. As Nick indicated how many each get will depend on a number of factors. If your dealership is not in the top ten in sales volume getting more than one or two Speedsters would be a stretch. 

    BTW, my dealer got about $200,000 over MSRP on a GT2RS. But it has to sit in his showroom for six months before he can sell it. With the gold TTS, I think he got $100,000 over and it sits in the showroom waiting for the six month period to lapse.


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    That market is out of control enlightened


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    Porsche centers simply allocate their slots to whatever name - as long as the car goes back as "used" for a huge premium where they get another big share - just yesterday a new GT2RS appeared for 499 CHF......hahaha


    Re: 991 Speedster

    BjoernB:

    Porsche centers simply allocate their slots to whatever name - as long as the car goes back as "used" for a huge premium where they get another big share - just yesterday a new GT2RS appeared for 499 CHF......hahaha

    but not under any conditions ...... it must be a clients that they know that will not drive the car very much , that for sure wll not track it , and that is not greedy . Basically , an person above 65 with many other cars Smiley


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    correct - and it could even be a big customer from another brand with a horse.....


    Re: 991 Speedster

    nberry:

    There are 189 Porsche dealers in the US. Thus each dealer allocations will be extremely limited. As Nick indicated how many each get will depend on a number of factors. If your dealership is not in the top ten in sales volume getting more than one or two Speedsters would be a stretch. 

    BTW, my dealer got about $200,000 over MSRP on a GT2RS. But it has to sit in his showroom for six months before he can sell it. With the gold TTS, I think he got $100,000 over and it sits in the showroom waiting for the six month period to lapse.

    I they had to sit on it for six months, that means the dealership is a 918 VIP customer and that's how they came by the allocation.  Dealer 918 VIPs have to take title to the car and then keep it for 6 months in order to fulfill the Dealer-918-VIP rules.

    If the car were from regular allocation, they could sell it immediately upon arrival.


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    Re: 991 Speedster

    W8MM:
    nberry:

    There are 189 Porsche dealers in the US. Thus each dealer allocations will be extremely limited. As Nick indicated how many each get will depend on a number of factors. If your dealership is not in the top ten in sales volume getting more than one or two Speedsters would be a stretch. 

    BTW, my dealer got about $200,000 over MSRP on a GT2RS. But it has to sit in his showroom for six months before he can sell it. With the gold TTS, I think he got $100,000 over and it sits in the showroom waiting for the six month period to lapse.

    I they had to sit on it for six months, that means the dealership is a 918 VIP customer and that's how they came by the allocation.  Dealer 918 VIPs have to take title to the car and then keep it for 6 months in order to fulfill the Dealer-918-VIP rules.

    If the car were from regular allocation, they could sell it immediately upon arrival.

    This.

     

     


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