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    997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    A little birdie just told me that it seems that the next issue of german car magazine Sport Auto offers a 997 Carrera S Supertest (Nordschleife, Hockenheim, etc.).
    The interesting part about this test: they test for the first time a 997 Carrera S equipped with the optional 20 mm chassis and PCCB. I already know the results from Hockenheim (which are pretty impressive, better than the GT3 Mk1) but I'm curious about the Nordschleife, especially since there have been lots of rumours and speculations.

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Why a little birdie. It was standing in the last sportauto mag.

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    RC since you got such an access in information,maybe you could help me with something i search 3 months now.

    In January german sport auto had a 997 tuned by a tuner called wendland(i think i spell correctly) with 360 HP which received very good reviews after some testing.

    Do you have this issue?

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Quote:
    RC said:
    A little birdie just told me that it seems that the next issue of german car magazine Sport Auto offers a 997 Carrera S Supertest (Nordschleife, Hockenheim, etc.).
    The interesting part about this test: they test for the first time a 997 Carrera S equipped with the optional 20 mm chassis and PCCB. I already know the results from Hockenheim (which are pretty impressive, better than the GT3 Mk1) but I'm curious about the Nordschleife, especially since there have been lots of rumours and speculations.


    Well RC, I have this particular Sportauto right in front of me. So what do you want to know?

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Ooops, sorry, you already told us, Ringtime.

    8.05 min

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Rossi do you also have January issue?

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    @Dilinger


    Wendland 997, Sport-Auto 01/2005
    www.wendland-tuning.de

    265 KW / 360 HP at 6900 RPM
    395 Nm at 4300 RPM
    1465 kg, 4.1 kg/HP, 100.1 HP/L
    tuning incl. new exhaust: 6.1 kEUR

    0-100 km/h:...4.7 sec
    0-200 km/h:.16.0 sec
    294 km/h max

    Hockenheim 1:15.5

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Quote:
    KF said:
    Why a little birdie. It was standing in the last sportauto mag.



    It was? Read it again...it said: "maybe...if the weather permits..."

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Quote:
    Rossi said:
    Ooops, sorry, you already told us, Ringtime.

    8.05 min



    8 min 05 sec would be nice but not as good as I expected.
    Hockenheim is 1 min 14 sec, right?

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Do you have more data? 0-100 and 0-200? Braking performance? What kind of brake (PCCB)?
    Handling performance (Slalom, etc.)? Aerodynamics?
    Hockenheim Performance?

    Please...give us more. BTW: I thought the next Sport Auto issue is due next week?

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Rc what do you mean 1 min 14 sec? which part? you mean slower?


    tahnx for the info.

    i appreciate it. bad thing is i know their site but cant understand a word,its only in German!!


    Also where coyld i find this issue? In Greece foreign press sucks!

    i wanted to see fotos etc etc,, do you knopw this tuning company?Is it reliable?

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    @Dilinger

    try this.....and learn some basic German ! Very helpful for Porsche fans....

    http://www.wendland-tuning.de/SA01-2005.pdf

    http://www.wendland-tuning.de/Tuning/PorscheVideo.html

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    i know all about these sections in the site!! thanx i ve seen them in February!!!

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Could somebody scan it when they get it?

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Quote:
    RC said:
    Do you have more data? 0-100 and 0-200? Braking performance? What kind of brake (PCCB)?
    Handling performance (Slalom, etc.)? Aerodynamics?
    Hockenheim Performance?

    Please...give us more. BTW: I thought the next Sport Auto issue is due next week?


    Sorry guys, I had to work. Try to answer all your questions now:

    Car was equipped with 20mm sport suspension and PCCB brakes.


    Here is the data:

    air temp 12* Celsius, track temp 16* Celsius, atmospheric pressure 1018 bar

    weight: 1461 kg

    -40: 1,6 sec
    -60: 2,4
    -80: 3,7
    -100: 4,8
    -120: 6,8
    -140: 8,6
    -160: 10,8
    -180: 13,7
    -200: 16,0

    Vmax: 293 kph

    through the gears: 4./5./6. gear from 80 kph to
    100: 2,3 sec / 3,2 sec / 3,9 sec
    120: 4,8 / 6,3 / 8,3
    140: 7,0 / 9,3 / 12,8
    160: 9,8 / 11,9 / 16,7
    180: 12,1 / 15,7 / 21,2

    braking performance:
    100 kph to standstill (cold): 35,3 m / 10,9 m/s2
    100 kph to standstill (warm): 32,2 m / 12,0 m/s2
    200 kph to standstill (warm): 130,7 m / 11,8 m/s2

    acceleration/braking 0 - 200 kph - 0: 20,7 sec

    handling:
    slalom (18 m): 70,9 kph
    slalom (36 m): 136 kph
    "Ausweichtest" (what's that called in English??? ): 153 kph

    Ring-time: 8.05 min
    HH-time: 1.14,3 min

    wet-handling: 1.28,4 min

    aerodynamics:
    cw 0,27
    A: 1,989 m2
    cw x A: 0,54
    at 200 kph: lift at front 20 kg, lift at rear 7 kg
    lateral g: 1,35 g

    to whom it concerns: consumption
    miminum: 10,5 l/100 km
    maximum: 19,9
    overall: 14,4

    61 / 71 points (without/with wet-handling) out of 70/80 possible

    Hope I didn't forget something important...

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

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    Rossi said:
    "Ausweichtest" (what's that called in English??? ):



    could be "swerve test"

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Thanks Rossi for the results

    Amazing! it beat for example the 400HP-V8, aluminum chasis, mid-engined F360 Modena around the Nurburgring, killed it around Hockenheim, beat it in the slalom & evasive course, beat in the skipad, beat in the braking test, beat it on the 0 to 200km/h back to 0 test, and matched its acceleration numbers right up to 200km/h... (and with better milage for those who care ) and all this with only 355HP, with rear seats and PSM!

    Any questions about the rear engine platform?


    PD: Ausweichtest = "Evasive Course"

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Thanks Rossi!
    1461 kgs!!!
    how come it's more than 40 kgs more than the weight advertised by the factory? Anyone?

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    I thought under 8 minutes..........we will wait next 997 GT3 and 997 Turbo for better times...

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    thanks Rossi!

    the data seem very impressive, guess the only thing that lacks to make this a really fast car is some punch! the gt3 and turbo will provide exactly that... (dont wanna try an ausweichstest at 153 km/h on public roads!!)

    cheers

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    Powerkit will probably push the time under 8 min

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    So there is aerodinamic lift on both axles

    Press kit says that there is downforce and after some talking around the forum i thought that there is zero lift-at least.

    Re: 997 Carrera S Supertest in the next Sport Auto issue?

    It is very likely that the downforce figures are just a good indicator and are meant for compareing figures of other cars tested in the same windtunnel, because the car is standing still and is not moving! Even the wheels aren't spinning.
    So there are many unknown influences.

    Bye,
    Christian

     
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