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    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    One more thing about Porsche and lights and facelifts:

    all the facelifted models seem to get a 'kink' I either front lights (987.2,Panamera fl and form spy pictures Cayenne fl also..) or rear lights (997.2) which is a) ugly and b) as if it was made deliberately to stop people from retrofitting new lights to  pre-fl cars

    Im not sure the kink would look good on a 991

     

    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    It's not about looking better or not, it's just that you have an "old" model after the facelift. 


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    2012 Cayenne S White/Espresso 

    Ex: 993 Targa, 986S, 986 and 964 C2


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    I can't think of a Porsche model that hasn't been improved visually by the facelift. Besides some technical/ power improvements. 

    Others brands don't improve as much at facelift time and some don't change anything during the life of a model.

    The most improved facelifted model so far has been the 997.2: DFI, +30 HP, PDK, LSD, improved PASM, bluetooth, brake assist and prefill, LEDs, new PCM and center console, ventilated seats, adaptive headlights and others.

     


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    "Form follows function"


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    993Targa:

    It's not about looking better or not, it's just that you have an "old" model after the facelift. 

    I certainly agree, but let's be honest. It has been that way for a long time and not just with Porsche. 

    You know that when you buy a 911 or any other Porsche that has been in its lifecycle for about 3-4 years, you're gonna see a facelifted version very soon. Where do you draw the limit if you are a manufacturer...? Smiley


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    Suzy

    2013 Porsche Boxster S (MT) | Basalt black metallic    [SOLD]
    2014 Audi A6 Avant 3.0 BiTDI Quattro | Moonshine blue metallic
     


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    SuzyF:
    993Targa:

    It's not about looking better or not, it's just that you have an "old" model after the facelift. 

    I certainly agree, but let's be honest. It has been that way for a long time and not just with Porsche. 

    You know that when you buy a 911 or any other Porsche that has been in its lifecycle for about 3-4 years, you're gonna see a facelifted version very soon. Where do you draw the limit if you are a manufacturer...? Smiley

    ...then after 15-20 years it is old enough to be popular again Smiley


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE

    2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White


    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    Keen on a base NA flat 6, go pre-facelift now. Probably true for S as well ...

    My 2cents.


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    987er:

    Keen on a NA flat 6, go pre-facelift now.

    My 2cents.

    I did Smiley

    Ecoboost 911? No thanks.


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE

    2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White


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    bluelines:
    SuzyF:
    993Targa:

    It's not about looking better or not, it's just that you have an "old" model after the facelift. 

    I certainly agree, but let's be honest. It has been that way for a long time and not just with Porsche. 

    You know that when you buy a 911 or any other Porsche that has been in its lifecycle for about 3-4 years, you're gonna see a facelifted version very soon. Where do you draw the limit if you are a manufacturer...? Smiley

    ...then after 15-20 years it is old enough to be popular again Smiley

    Exactly! Smiley


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    Suzy

    2013 Porsche Boxster S (MT) | Basalt black metallic    [SOLD]
    2014 Audi A6 Avant 3.0 BiTDI Quattro | Moonshine blue metallic
     


    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    AP fired?cheeky


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    Super Darius:

    AP fired?cheeky

    Smiley


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE

    2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White


    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    from another forum..

    "just wanted to inform you that "rumor mill around Stuttgart" has it that AP will be disbandend from his functions as head of the GT cars at Porsche"

    Sure is fault of the bad thing happened with the GT3 engines,also if i think is not directly involved...but is the head..so.

    a pity if true ,becouse is really a kindly man..


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


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    bluelines:
    Super Darius:

    AP fired?cheeky

    Smiley

    AP = Andreas Preuninger Smiley


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    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    The end of AP might be true. The GT3 fiasco is a huge blow for Porsche engineering and the buck had to stop at AP.

    If so, no one is irreplaceable. 


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    "Form follows function"


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    Carlos from Spain:
    bluelines:
    Super Darius:

    AP fired?cheeky

    Smiley

    AP = Andreas Preuninger Smiley

    It was not the AP part, but the fired part I questioned Smiley Thanks anyway Smiley

    I hope that is not true.


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE

    2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White


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    bluelines:
    Carlos from Spain:
    bluelines:
    Super Darius:

    AP fired?cheeky

    Smiley

    AP = Andreas Preuninger Smiley

    It was not the AP part, but the fired part I questioned Smiley Thanks anyway Smiley

    I hope that is not true.

    Sorry, misunderstood Smiley but I also agree, hope its not true, would be a great loss...


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    if there is one guy guy i really would like to have a beer with its AP.


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    Geoff 991S:
    pxaxh:

    If I remember correctly, Goodwood festival of speed tweeted that the GT3RS will be unveiled at the event. So that's at the end of this month. Hopefully it is true!

    Been invited by Porsche to Goodwood but no mention of the 3RS in the letter  Smiley

    Not a free invite I guess Smiley


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    bluewonder:

    if there is one guy guy i really would like to have a beer with its AP.


    is really a great person,i had a contact with him times ago,really a good guy and a great Porsche fan.


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


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    bluewonder:

    if there is one guy guy i really would like to have a beer with its AP.

    For a beer he might be great but would you like him to do your con-rods? Smiley


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    "Form follows function"


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    Super Darius:

    AP fired?cheeky

     

    Very disapointing...Smiley if true.

    BlueflameSmiley


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    Super Darius:

    AP fired?cheeky

    Careful, Dario. Where do you have this from? Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    Christian,i writed in the post under:

     

    from another forum..

     

    "just wanted to inform you that "rumor mill around Stuttgart" has it that AP will be disbandend from his functions as head of the GT cars at Porsche"

    Sure is fault of the bad thing happened with the GT3 engines,also if i think is not directly involved...but is the head..so.

    a pity if true ,becouse is really a kindly man..

     

     

    No update till then,so maybe is not a real thing(and believe me, i hope so...)

     

    Smiley

     


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    There is always some truth in rumors and I know that AP was under a lot of pressure lately (not that it was really his fault) but we should be careful with such rumors.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


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    Yes,for sure we must be careful,and i think we was...

    also all hopes that AP will remain at his place,and this tells much on what we think of him!


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    Hi All,

    Is there any word on the release of the 2015 Cayenne?   It looks as though 2014 Cayenne allocation is going through August here in the USA, while June is the las month for 2014 for the rest of the product line.

    There is the usual camouflaged pics floating around if you Google it.  I was simply wanting to know if anyone had anything more substaintial.

    Thank you,

    Nick


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    I kinda find myself opening this thread time and time again, coz I thought it was all about 991 spyshots and related news and such. But lately it's more like general talk about some Porsche managers and Cayennes...?

    yes 


    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    If you looks closer to these pics you'll see that they are hiding the gills

    Porsche-911-GT3-RS-004.jpgPorsche-911-GT3-RS-005.jpgPorsche-911-GT3-RS-006.jpgPorsche-911-GT3-RS-007.jpgPorsche-911-GT3-RS-001.jpgPorsche-911-GT3-RS-002.jpgPorsche-911-GT3-RS-003.jpg

     


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    Yes,also for me there is something hiddenblush


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    997TT RS Tuning stage II(sold),2011 Cayenne Turbo(sold),waiting 991 GT3 RS


    Re: 991 spyshots thread (continued) (for UNRELEASED models only) Thread Closed

    So what kind of grills are supposed to be underneath that supposed side  camo ? 


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     997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm


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    987er:

    I kinda find myself opening this thread time and time again, coz I thought it was all about 991 spyshots and related news and such. But lately it's more like general talk about some Porsche managers and Cayennes...?

    yes

    This is what makes Rennteam unique. A spectrum of unrelated topics in the same thread. See it positively, you pick up all info without having to switch thread... Smiley


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    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | S-PASM (-20mm) | PSE

    2010 Audi S5 cabrio | Ibis White


     
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