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    M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    BMW M6 vs. 911 Turbo. Both cars original. Rolllings start at 50 km/h when we cross some cones. We end the race at around 240-250 km/h, looks like the 911 Turbo driver finish to floor it a bit before me.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5782964103205155527&q=911+turbo

    2dd race here from standstill with Launch Control
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7456973188046837883&q=m6+911

    This RS4 was tuned to over 500 HP and overr 600 Nm according to the owner.

    Engine: 2671 cc 500+ hk [368+ kW] - 600+ Nm
    Tuned by ACE Competition
    Acc: 0-100 km/h <4s

    According to Ace competition stats:

    Effekt: 380 hk (280 kW) vid 6100 varv/min Effekt: 480 hk (353 kW) vid 7050 varv/min Vridmoment: 440 Nm vid 2500-6000 varv/min Vridmoment: 580 Nm vid 3300 varv/min Toppfart: 250 km/h Toppfart: 300+ km/h 0-100 km/h: 4,9 s 0-100 km/h: 4,2 s Modifikationer: Programvara, komplett rostfritt avgassystem inkl racekatalysatorer och främre rör, turbo, ombyggnad vevhusventilation, diverse packningar, motorolja Castrol TWS 10W/60, oljefilter, glykol. Prestanda 0-200 km/h 12,9 s.


    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2515316817779855742&q=RS4

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    man, the 997TT can't come soon enough

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    The comparison in the video is of very limited significance as the tested Porsche is not the current model but the old version with just 420hp.

    In various tests the current TTS (450hp) has been confirmed to be slightly faster in the straight line 0-200 than the M6. Not to mention the 20 seconds or so on the NBR

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    I don't get this, the M6 should not be able to pull away from 911 Turbo like this. Something is wrong here guys. Granted the BMW is a fast machine, but as they speed up the Turbo should be right there with the M6 and not get blown away like this. Looking through the M6 rear window the Porsche looks like it's standing still. My opinion something
    is not right with this video. One way or another even if the M6 is faster, it's not the same car as PORSCHE.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Sorry to say... but in a straight line aM6 will eat a 996T...

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    70 MB film from the BMW M6 event from the 996 Turbo and GT3 people
    http://www.henkanonline.se/m6.wmv

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    The comparison in the video is of very limited significance as the tested Porsche is not the current model but the old version with just 420hp.

    In various tests the current TTS (450hp) has been confirmed to be slightly faster in the straight line 0-200 than the M6. Not to mention the 20 seconds or so on the NBR





    That BMW is a brand new car, with over 80hp on the 996TT, so the result isn't surprising. The 997TT will have no problem running away from it.

    For now, it was a good kill for the M6 on the 996TT, but definitely not the slaughter I thought it would be with the power difference. The M6 had better enjoy it while it lasts.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    DamienL said:
    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    The comparison in the video is of very limited significance as the tested Porsche is not the current model but the old version with just 420hp.

    In various tests the current TTS (450hp) has been confirmed to be slightly faster in the straight line 0-200 than the M6. Not to mention the 20 seconds or so on the NBR





    That BMW is a brand new car, with over 80hp on the 996TT, so the result isn't surprising. The 997TT will have no problem running away from it.




    If 997 TT will have 450 hp it will not be easy

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    The Hawk said:
    Quote:
    DamienL said:
    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    The comparison in the video is of very limited significance as the tested Porsche is not the current model but the old version with just 420hp.

    In various tests the current TTS (450hp) has been confirmed to be slightly faster in the straight line 0-200 than the M6. Not to mention the 20 seconds or so on the NBR





    That BMW is a brand new car, with over 80hp on the 996TT, so the result isn't surprising. The 997TT will have no problem running away from it.




    If 997 TT will have 450 hp it will not be easy



    I highly doubt the 997TT will have only 450hp. 490+hp seems more likely.
    It seemed like quite a lot to me at first condidering the relatively small increase from the 993TT to the 996TT, but the 997TT will be facing some serious competition and will need that extra power.

    If it gets only 450hp, it will be in some serious trouble.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Why do you get pissed if a car can easily pull away from the TT (or any 996's 997), there are many cars (stock) that are much faster than porsche.
    I just love to go porsche hunting in my E60 M5.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    I for one don't get pissed seeing a Porsche loose a drag race. As you said there are many cars that can out run a 996TT.

    I just look at the facts as I see them. In that video, the 996 clearly lost the drag race, but I thought the M6 would absolutely obliterate it. It was a convincing win for the M6, but the 996 did a pretty good job considering how it's so down on power.
    When the 997TT is released, the M6 will in all probability not be the slower car. That's nothing against the M6, it's a fantastic car without question, but if a 996TTS is pretty even with it now, the 997TT with its extra power (considering it gets around 490hp), should be faster.

    Honestly, I don't find drag races very exciting. Acceleration is only one part of a complete performance package. Still, it's a fun topic to discuss.

    Enjoy your Porsche hunting.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    The Hawk said:
    BMW M6 vs. 911 Turbo. Both cars original. Rolllings start at 50 km/h when we cross some cones. We end the race at around 240-250 km/h, looks like the 911 Turbo driver finish to floor it a bit before me.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5782964103205155527&q=911+turbo

    2dd race here from standstill with Launch Control
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7456973188046837883&q=m6+911

    This RS4 was tuned to over 500 HP and overr 600 Nm according to the owner.

    Engine: 2671 cc 500+ hk [368+ kW] - 600+ Nm
    Tuned by ACE Competition
    Acc: 0-100 km/h <4s

    According to Ace competition stats:

    Effekt: 380 hk (280 kW) vid 6100 varv/min Effekt: 480 hk (353 kW) vid 7050 varv/min Vridmoment: 440 Nm vid 2500-6000 varv/min Vridmoment: 580 Nm vid 3300 varv/min Toppfart: 250 km/h Toppfart: 300+ km/h 0-100 km/h: 4,9 s 0-100 km/h: 4,2 s Modifikationer: Programvara, komplett rostfritt avgassystem inkl racekatalysatorer och främre rör, turbo, ombyggnad vevhusventilation, diverse packningar, motorolja Castrol TWS 10W/60, oljefilter, glykol. Prestanda 0-200 km/h 12,9 s.


    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2515316817779855742&q=RS4



    Sorry, I misread your post. I didn't know that was you driving the M6. Congratulations you on your Turbo kill.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    The Hawk said:
    Quote:
    DamienL said:
    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    The comparison in the video is of very limited significance as the tested Porsche is not the current model but the old version with just 420hp.

    In various tests the current TTS (450hp) has been confirmed to be slightly faster in the straight line 0-200 than the M6. Not to mention the 20 seconds or so on the NBR





    That BMW is a brand new car, with over 80hp on the 996TT, so the result isn't surprising. The 997TT will have no problem running away from it.




    If 997 TT will have 450 hp it will not be easy



    Even 450hp would be enough. The current 996TTS is already faster than the M6.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    MSB said:
    Why do you get pissed if a car can easily pull away from the TT (or any 996's 997), there are many cars (stock) that are much faster than porsche.
    I just love to go porsche hunting in my E60 M5.



    You do not seem to know what you are talking about... This is no BS board.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    Quote:
    MSB said:
    Why do you get pissed if a car can easily pull away from the TT (or any 996's 997), there are many cars (stock) that are much faster than porsche.
    I just love to go porsche hunting in my E60 M5.



    You do not seem to know what you are talking about... This is no BS board.



    I believe that a stock M6 will beat a stock K16 Turbo. I don't believe however that it can beat an X50.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    The E60 M5 has no luck hunting the 996TT or even the 997S. Sweet dreams

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    No matter how fast the M6 is it cannot outrun its own ugliness.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    MSB said:

    I just love to go porsche hunting in my E60 M5.



    So, how many Porsches have you eaten...on a track?


    Seriously guys. If you're into straightline dragracing or get off watching people driving like maniacs on public roads in an attempt to prove their manliness (re: RS4 versus M6), I suggest checking out this website instead:
    http://www.maxpower.co.uk/homepage/

    We all have our preferences, but I honestly thought this forum was WAY beyond dragracing and straightline-power.
    It takes very little skill to "eat" a 996TT in a faster car. Any [censored] can do that.
    That just takes money.. to buy or build a more powerful car.

    Learn to handle a car...REALLY handle a car - take it on a track - THEN talk about "eating", "owning" and "hunting" others.

    Rich kids dragracing hi-powered cars is about as interesting as watching paint dry.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    it just be some reason that every brands do targetting porsche!? ex: aston martin , bmw, merc, oh! and japs too!

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    and remember how old is 996 compare to 2005 m6!?

    spend all these years!? still cant outrun the porsche on circuit!

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    The M6 is a losermobile.

    Its the King of depreciation and Lord of flashing system failure lights.

    Its slower than a Corvette Z06, has worse panel fit than a Range Rover, worse steering than a Ford Mustang and needs a weekly software enema to cure its electrical gremlins.

    Its made in Bavaria, by people who should know better to sell to those that dont.

    Its V-10 is just the first ten reasons not to buy one. There are plenty more!

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    JimFlat6 said:
    Its V-10 is just the first ten reasons not to buy one. There are plenty more!


    I don't like M6 neither, but why V10 is one of the reasons?

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    http://www.lucchesiturbo.com.br/vid...rsche_M3_M5.wmv

    this is from korea

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    The Hawk said:
    BMW M6 vs. 911 Turbo. Both cars original. Rolllings start at 50 km/h when we cross some cones. We end the race at around 240-250 km/h, looks like the 911 Turbo driver finish to floor it a bit before me.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5782964103205155527&q=911+turbo

    2dd race here from standstill with Launch Control
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7456973188046837883&q=m6+911

    This RS4 was tuned to over 500 HP and overr 600 Nm according to the owner.

    Engine: 2671 cc 500+ hk [368+ kW] - 600+ Nm
    Tuned by ACE Competition
    Acc: 0-100 km/h <4s

    According to Ace competition stats:

    Effekt: 380 hk (280 kW) vid 6100 varv/min Effekt: 480 hk (353 kW) vid 7050 varv/min Vridmoment: 440 Nm vid 2500-6000 varv/min Vridmoment: 580 Nm vid 3300 varv/min Toppfart: 250 km/h Toppfart: 300+ km/h 0-100 km/h: 4,9 s 0-100 km/h: 4,2 s Modifikationer: Programvara, komplett rostfritt avgassystem inkl racekatalysatorer och främre rör, turbo, ombyggnad vevhusventilation, diverse packningar, motorolja Castrol TWS 10W/60, oljefilter, glykol. Prestanda 0-200 km/h 12,9 s.


    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2515316817779855742&q=RS4



    It seems that you should not have ended the test at around 250kph

    We did a comparison of a stock 996TT (x50, i.e. 450hp) and a BMW M6 very recently.

    The result was that both cars show nearly identical acceleration up to 250kph (while the TT driver has a hard time to change gears quick enough to match the shifting speed of the M6).

    Beyond 250kph the 996TT was slightly quicker, leaving the M6 behind.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    MKSGR said:

    It seems that you should not have ended the test at around 250kph

    We did a comparison of a stock 996TT (x50, i.e. 450hp) and a BMW M6 very recently.

    The result was that both cars show nearly identical acceleration up to 250kph (while the TT driver has a hard time to change gears quick enough to match the shifting speed of the M6).

    Beyond 250kph the 996TT was slightly quicker, leaving the M6 behind.



    BTW: Our findings also have a rather unfavourable implication for Techart products

    In one of the videos posted by The Hawk a 510hp Techart TT was as quick as the M5.

    I.e. 450 official Porsche hp are enough to beat 507 BMW hp. But 510 Techart hp just deliver the same perdormance as 507 BMW hp...

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    If what MKSGR is saying is true, then all these latest BMW M races floating all round the net are rigged. Losers!

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    Dr. Phil said:
    Quote:
    MSB said:

    I just love to go porsche hunting in my E60 M5.



    So, how many Porsches have you eaten...on a track?


    Seriously guys. If you're into straightline dragracing or get off watching people driving like maniacs on public roads in an attempt to prove their manliness (re: RS4 versus M6), I suggest checking out this website instead:
    http://www.maxpower.co.uk/homepage/

    We all have our preferences, but I honestly thought this forum was WAY beyond dragracing and straightline-power.
    It takes very little skill to "eat" a 996TT in a faster car. Any [censored] can do that.
    That just takes money.. to buy or build a more powerful car.

    Learn to handle a car...REALLY handle a car - take it on a track - THEN talk about "eating", "owning" and "hunting" others.

    Rich kids dragracing hi-powered cars is about as interesting as watching paint dry.



    I second that plainly Dr. Phil. In fact I hardly ever see M5's or M6's on the trackdays I attend. M3s sometimes, but they are in a different league anyhow.

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    Bilal said:
    If what MKSGR is saying is true, then all these latest BMW M races floating all round the net are rigged. Losers!



    "Losers" would be a little bit too strong.

    The M6 is very fast. Only above 250kph it is slower than the 996TT with 450hp...

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    Quote:
    MKSGR said:

    It seems that you should not have ended the test at around 250kph

    We did a comparison of a stock 996TT (x50, i.e. 450hp) and a BMW M6 very recently.

    The result was that both cars show nearly identical acceleration up to 250kph (while the TT driver has a hard time to change gears quick enough to match the shifting speed of the M6).

    Beyond 250kph the 996TT was slightly quicker, leaving the M6 behind.



    BTW: Our findings also have a rather unfavourable implication for Techart products

    In one of the videos posted by The Hawk a 510hp Techart TT was as quick as the M5.

    I.e. 450 official Porsche hp are enough to beat 507 BMW hp. But 510 Techart hp just deliver the same perdormance as 507 BMW hp...



    Fahrleistung
    Beschleunigung
    0-100 km/h 3,9 s
    0-200 km/h 12,9 s
    Vmax 323 km/h

    Those are the numbers for the 530 HP Techart car. Pretty damn weak if you ask me...

    Re: M6 vs 500 hp RS4 vs 996 Turbo

    Quote:
    Crash said:
    Quote:
    MKSGR said:
    Quote:
    MKSGR said:

    It seems that you should not have ended the test at around 250kph

    We did a comparison of a stock 996TT (x50, i.e. 450hp) and a BMW M6 very recently.

    The result was that both cars show nearly identical acceleration up to 250kph (while the TT driver has a hard time to change gears quick enough to match the shifting speed of the M6).

    Beyond 250kph the 996TT was slightly quicker, leaving the M6 behind.



    BTW: Our findings also have a rather unfavourable implication for Techart products

    In one of the videos posted by The Hawk a 510hp Techart TT was as quick as the M5.

    I.e. 450 official Porsche hp are enough to beat 507 BMW hp. But 510 Techart hp just deliver the same perdormance as 507 BMW hp...



    Fahrleistung
    Beschleunigung
    0-100 km/h 3,9 s
    0-200 km/h 12,9 s
    Vmax 323 km/h

    Those are the numbers for the 530 HP Techart car. Pretty damn weak if you ask me...



    I totally agree!

    For comparison: RStuning offers a GT2 based version of the 540hp kit. sportauto tested this car. The numbers where (approximately):

    0-200 slightly above 10.5 seconds
    0-300 in 28 seconds

    That is a huge difference to the 530hp Techart. In fact the Techart is only as fast as a standard X50 up to 200kph...

     
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