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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Why cost this would cost a penny more than the GT3 RS? It should actually be significantly cheaper than the turbo and the RS...


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    KresoF1:

    And now this... With SC, new -20mm/SPASM, PDK and PCCBs 991.2 CS on street P Zeros is faster on the Ring then Cayman GT4.​

    Of course you forgot to mention that the 991.2 equipped like that costs 50% more than GT4 indecision


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    neunelf:
    reginos:

    porsche-911-devel-drive-004.jpg

    Apparently the real magic happens when you press the button in the middle.

    Over Boost??


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    If I understand it correctly it's more then that as it sharpens PDK and PSM as well. 


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    This is the most important quote:

    Für bestmögliche Beschleunigung spannen die Turbolader elektrisch vor, schnüren das Turboloch auf die Länge eines Wimpernschlags zu (keine Ladedruckerhöhung, Overboost!), was die Gasannahme schärft – und ab geht die Post.

     

     


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Are the 991.2 gaining weight with the new engines ?


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    This is the most important quote:

    Für bestmögliche Beschleunigung spannen die Turbolader elektrisch vor, schnüren das Turboloch auf die Länge eines Wimpernschlags zu (keine Ladedruckerhöhung, Overboost!), was die Gasannahme schärft – und ab geht die Post.

     

     

    Terrible translation "For the best possible acceleration tension electrically before the turbocharger, the turbo-lag on the length of a blink to (no Ladedruckerhohung, Overboost! ), what sharpens the throttle response - and off goes the Post"


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    It is some kind of electrical turbo precharging. I got pdf that can not post here yet or send to someone but, car is a technical wonder. If everything works as described in this german pdf 991.2 will be the Benchmark.


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    It is some kind of electrical turbo precharging. I got pdf that can not post here yet or send to someone but, car is a technical wonder. If everything works as described in this german pdf 991.2 will be the Benchmark.

    But you are confident in choosing 991.1 instead?


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Grant:
    KresoF1:

    It is some kind of electrical turbo precharging. I got pdf that can not post here yet or send to someone but, car is a technical wonder. If everything works as described in this german pdf 991.2 will be the Benchmark.

    But you are confident in choosing 991.1 instead?

    No, I will take very low option 991.1 and get 991.2 as soon as orders open up. 

    New engines are state of the art. They are more advanced then 488 GTB engine. 

    My P source told me directly to order low options GTS(-20mm/SPASM and some items) since it will be an easy car to sell or trade. He also said that 991.2 C4S with power kit and all drive dynamic goodies is better in every possible way then 991.1 Carrera GTS(also equiped with drive dynamics goodies). Only thing where current GTS could be superior is exhaust sound. 


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Aha - so, you'll only keep GTS for a few months?  Do you have to pay VAT twice?


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Grant:

    Aha - so, you'll only keep GTS for a few months?  Do you have to pay VAT twice?

    No, car will go to my business partner here in early 2016 when I get 991.2 

    He wants 991.2 GTS but, he is not willing to pay price of new one. Therefor I ordered the car in his desired color and low specs (I just added -20mm). I will drive it until 991.2 arrives. It will be also a good thing to compare both generations directly.


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    Interesting- looking forward to both cars!


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    It is some kind of electrical turbo precharging. I got pdf that can not post here yet or send to someone but, car is a technical wonder. If everything works as described in this german pdf 991.2 will be the Benchmark.

    The article says this special feature does work for 120 seconds only...


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Yes, for 120 seconds. More then enough IMHO.


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    Yes, for 120 seconds. More then enough IMHO.

    One could probably fix the button with some kind of tape and then it would work forever Smiley


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    MKSGR:
    KresoF1:

    Yes, for 120 seconds. More then enough IMHO.

    One could probably fix the button with some kind of tape and then it would work forever Smiley

    HahahhahahaSmiley

    we can glue down the button if can be a solutionSmiley


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    Super Darius:
    MKSGR:
    KresoF1:

    Yes, for 120 seconds. More then enough IMHO.

    One could probably fix the button with some kind of tape and then it would work forever Smiley

    HahahhahahaSmiley

    we can glue down the button if can be a solutionSmiley

    Smiley The new benchmark Smiley


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    I think I am excited.

    Porsche has  a bunch of madmen engineers.

    Now Porsche needs a bunch of madmen designers.  New FL exterior is nice, but still has a bit of a "bolt on/scoop/plastic bumper" look.  If new generation in 2018 progresses in body design like performance is progressing now, it's "Katie, bar the door".


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Impatiently waiting for more information and pleasantly surprised, and pleased, to see a manual in one of the photographs.  I guess the new AM N430 might not get as much use as I had first thought. 


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    MKSGR:
    KresoF1:

    It is some kind of electrical turbo precharging. I got pdf that can not post here yet or send to someone but, car is a technical wonder. If everything works as described in this german pdf 991.2 will be the Benchmark.

    The article says this special feature does work for 120 seconds only...

    When was the last time you used full throttle continuously for 120 seconds?


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    I think this sounds similar to technology that Audi has displayed before (electric turbos)??  Works on high-voltage supply.  Hope this is reliable from first year...


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    KresoF1:
    Grant:

    Aha - so, you'll only keep GTS for a few months?  Do you have to pay VAT twice?

    No, car will go to my business partner here in early 2016 when I get 991.2 

    He wants 991.2 GTS but, he is not willing to pay price of new one. Therefor I ordered the car in his desired color and low specs (I just added -20mm). I will drive it until 991.2 arrives. It will be also a good thing to compare both generations directly.

    looking forward to the 991.2 and your impressions Kreso, thanks for all the infos.Smiley
    Can you say more about the 991.2 Turbo rumours?


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Power will be approximately....

    540ps-550ps for 991.2 Turbo and 580ps-600ps for 991.2 Turbo S (lower number is safer bet). Updated suspension, updated engines,  even faster and more efficient.  

     


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    It is some kind of electrical turbo precharging. I got pdf that can not post here yet or send to someone but, car is a technical wonder. If everything works as described in this german pdf 991.2 will be the Benchmark.

    Smiley that sounds familiar... First see, then believe. It's Porsche.... 


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    More on the 991R rumour

    http://www.ausmotive.com/2015/07/22/is-there-a-new-porsche-911-r-coming.html


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Nothing new. They probably learnt their news on this or other forum.


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Sounds like what Kreso said actually. 


    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    WAY:

    Sounds like what Kreso said actually. 

    Yes, let's hope Porsche doesn't get the wrong idea when they read that we have accepted a "rumour" of 250k price tag.


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    Re: 991.2 and future models Thread Closed

    Reginos, I don't see this button on the car in the AutoBild photos.  Is it with SC option?


     
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