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    Bluetooth module on 997.2

    Quick question - has anyone ordered the bluetooth module on their 997.2 car? I'm wondering whether is worth the extra Pounds520 as I don't really use my phone much when driving. Is it essential for re-sale? I'm thinking a simple bluetooth headset would suffice. Thanks

    Re: Bluetooth module on 997.2

    Good question......I'd like to understand this better.
    My current cars (phones) all have have hands-free, auto power up & charge w/ignition, amplified antenna, and even voice rec on the AMG.....all that happens every time I turn the key. Pretty sure I will loose all this now with 997.2.

    I know today, most people carry their phones in their pockets...different.
    Porsche's system apparently interfaces (to some degree) with PCM or multi-function steering wheel if you have it.
    I find that helpful the AMG...display is larger easier to use.

    Re: Bluetooth module on 997.2

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    GreggT said:
    Good question......I'd like to understand this better.
    My current cars (phones) all have have hands-free, auto power up & charge w/ignition, amplified antenna, and even voice rec on the AMG.....all that happens every time I turn the key. Pretty sure I will loose all this now with 997.2.

    I know today, most people carry their phones in their pockets...different.
    Porsche's system apparently interfaces (to some degree) with PCM or multi-function steering wheel if you have it.
    I find that helpful the AMG...display is larger easier to use.


    Moreover you can insert a SIM card at a slot on the PCM, either a duplicate of your phone or a different number, and be independent of your phone in the car.

    Re: Bluetooth module on 997.2

    The bluetooth phone system is totally different than the phone-prep (SIM) system. With the SIM system - there is a wireless phone built into the car with antenna, etc. All you supply is the SIM. For us in the USA, its useless because the service providers other than T-Mobile, don't use GSM, they use non-SIM card based technologies... so no cards.

    For the USA, thus bluetooth is the only viable option. In the USA, hands free is required more and more in many states by law. If you don't use your phone in the car, of course its irrelevant.

    Bluetooth, does not provide a phone in the car, it uses YOUR phone and its antenna, as the transmitter/receiver. What Bluetooth does provide is the microphone and speakers of the car's audio system, as well as the PCM display for dialing/phonebook. Your phone can stay in your pocket - you don't have to touch it (in theory) to receive or make calls while in the car. (theory - your phone, once paired to the PCM will re-pair each time you get in with the phone and power up the car... level of Bluetooth protocol support varies by manufacturer and model of phone and its firmware)

    IF all Bluetooth protocols are available in the PCM and your bluetooth phone, then your PCM should be able to download the address book from the phone (via syncing) and you can use the PCM screen to scroll through it to select who to dial. If you have voice control option, you can theoretically do this all by voice, with the hands never leaving the wheel.

    At a minimum, with the lowest hands-free profile of Bluetooth, you should be able to receive calls and dial out via the PCM through your phone, or using voice, if voice option is installed.

    All of these Bluetooth options are separate/unrelated to SIM /phone prep, a totally different option.


    So in response to GreggT, you should still be able to do what you did in the AMG with the new 997.2 with Bluetooth phone prep and with Voice Control prep.


    In the USA, Bluetooth will definitely help resale, because here, many have been adding 3rd party bluetooth interfaces post-purchase (997.1 cars for example). As more states mandate handsfree phone use in the car, it will become more critical to the phone-chatty american automotive consumers in general. Whether that translates to a need from Porsche buyers is a different question.

    For the European market, where you can get a duplicate SIM card from your provider, I'd say its less of an importance - because a good alternative exists. There is a bluetooth profile, however, that lets the car still be the phone, but uses the SIM card in your mobile phone without you having to plug the SIM into the PCM... and that has some benefits. Also, if I understand things right, with SIM inserted into the dash, the address book of the PCM phone would be different than the one in your mobil, as they numbers and names are stored on the phone/SIM, and would not sync. There, Bluetooth has an advantage as it means there's only one address book thats then available on your handy and in the car (if the car and handy support the bluetooth protocol for syncing the phone books)

    Re: Bluetooth module on 997.2

    Minok- Thank you very much for the info about Bluetooth. I ordered Bluetooth for my TT because the SA said it is good for resale.

    Re: Bluetooth module on 997.2

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    Minok said:
    With the SIM system - there is a wireless phone built into the car with antenna, etc. All you supply is the SIM. For us in the USA, its useless because the service providers other than T-Mobile, don't use GSM, they use non-SIM card based technologies



    AT&T Wireless, the biggest in the nation, uses GSM and a SIM card. I know this because it's my carrier. Also, the phone usually gives the choice of saving addresses to the SIM card or the phone itself. If saved to the SIM card, the addresses would sync between the phone and the PCM.

    Re: Bluetooth module on 997.2

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    fxhomie said:
    Quote:
    Minok said:
    With the SIM system - there is a wireless phone built into the car with antenna, etc. All you supply is the SIM. For us in the USA, its useless because the service providers other than T-Mobile, don't use GSM, they use non-SIM card based technologies



    AT&T Wireless, the biggest in the nation, uses GSM and a SIM card. I know this because it's my carrier. Also, the phone usually gives the choice of saving addresses to the SIM card or the phone itself. If saved to the SIM card, the addresses would sync between the phone and the PCM.



    This is true, if the phone syncs addresses to the SIM card, then its on the SIM. You would, however, have to remove the SIM card from the phone and put it in the phone-prepped PCM, or have the bluetooth option that uses the phones SIM card.

    Good to know that AT&T is SIM based.

    Re: Bluetooth module on 997.2

    Yes, taking the SIM card out every time to insert in the PCM would be a hassle. The bluetooth option would be the way to go to avoid all of that.

    But, I've heard of gray market flashing of an additional SIM card here in the States. That would eliminate the perpetual switch-out.

    Re: Bluetooth module on 997.2

    I've heard of that too... you fedex your SIM card somewhere, they clone it and send two back.

    But you still need a service provider with GSM phones and then there's the uncertainty of what happened while your SIM was 'in Hong Kong' or wherever you fedexed it to. (and you need the phone prep)

    Bluetooth just seems the safer / more universal option in the USA as it allows you to pick any cell carrier, so long as they don't totally cripple the Bluetooth protocol stack (Verizon has been known to do that, for example, and prevent phonebook syncing but just allow basic hands free operation via Bluetooth)

    Re: Bluetooth module on 997.2

    Very modern phones don't store numbers in the SIM anymore (aka iPhone). Bluetooth is the way to go.

    Funny how people whine phones are too expensive then jump on $750 bluetooth option on their cars

     
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