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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    d997h:

    hmmm, so, your Porsche dealer has now some spare (slightly used) pccb rotors in stock ? Smiley Smiley

    They went back to Porsche... Smiley Bad luck for Porsche I guess but they authorized the exchange based on the symptoms transmitted (in audio & video) by the repair shop. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    I've had my Turbo S for five weeks and it's going back to the dealer -  the same clicking noise under braking. It's unacceptable that six months after the problem was aired they're letting these car leave the factory with the same problem.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    My clicking went away before I took it to the dealer to be reviewed. But I am still waiting for a new windscreen to arrive from Germany.....


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2014 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    Saw and heard a new TTS with TechArt wing and Tubi exhaust at my dealer just now. Sounded much better. Anyone got a Tubi too and what's your experiences?

    Having my windscreen replaced under warranty today thankfully!


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2014 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    Sport exhausts usually sound better at idle or when you accelerate while the car is sitting still but when driving, most sport exhaust systems don't really work for the 991 Turbo S, don't have a clue why (heard two prototypes and both were disappointing, only a bit louder but the sound wasn't really nice). So before you spend a lot of money on a sport exhaust, make sure you listen to it during driving. Also keep in mind that the engine warranty could be gone, Porsche is pretty anal about stuff like that.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    The dealer told me Tubi and Porsche worked together - only the OEM exhaust warranty is impacted here in the US. Given the exhaust is replaced anyways that should not be an issue. 25bhp and 25lb Torque at the wheel improvements with better drivability. ~$8k fitted. In my cab I think the Tubi would make a big difference all round sound wise from what I heard.


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2014 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    I put a RUF exhaust (recommended by Porsche contacts) on my 996TT, and ultimately regretted it.  Slightly louder sound, but no noticeable difference in performance despite the 30HP or so claim.  Your choice of course, but i would spend the 8K elsewhere.  Quiet and fast is cool...


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    Same experience here - my friend put this onto his 997TT - no notable change of anything - neither sound nor power. Waste of money IMO


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    Wonderbar:

    Quiet and fast is cool...


    Very true... Smiley

    BTW, drove the BMW i8 recently, there you would say: rather fast and very quiet is uber cool... Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    EnglishManInNY:

    The dealer told me Tubi and Porsche worked together - only the OEM exhaust warranty is impacted here in the US. Given the exhaust is replaced anyways that should not be an issue. 25bhp and 25lb Torque at the wheel improvements with better drivability. ~$8k fitted. In my cab I think the Tubi would make a big difference all round sound wise from what I heard.

    Tubi and Porsche don't work together. Porsche has some ties to Akrapovici for low volume models exhaust systems but the version intended for the 991 Turbo S apparently wasn't ready for certification, despite it's lower weight. I guess Akrapovici will offer the exhaust system at some point but don't expect wonders from it.

    @Wonderbar & @Rossi: No sound is cool? In what universe? Maybe you should get the new S class in AMG flavor. Oh wait, even this car sounds good. Smiley

    I'm not happy with the 991 Turbo S exhaust sound, why should I lie. It is much better than the 997 Turbo S sound but still not enough. Yes, the quieter sound actually makes it possible to enjoy this car without raising eyebrows or getting middle fingers shown by pedestrians, this is true but the sound sucks. Period. I would want a raunchier sound in the lower rev range below 3000 rpm but... Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    I love my Europipe on 7GT2, quiet under 3500rpm and becomes lethal at full throttle

     

     


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    That sounds really good. Why doesn't Porsche offer a Sports Exhaust like this? The lack of sound is for some people (me) a reason to stick with the Carrera. And any aftermarket exhaust will violate the warranty.


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    911 S Cabrio (2013), Panamera GTS (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    RC, didn't mean to imply that no sound is cool, but for me a quiet. low rumble is much more pleasing and less offensive than a brash, raucous, look at me exhaust sound.  For 99% of my driving in nice neighborhoods and metropolitan areas, I want less not  more noise.

    And I am the guy who for years drove a 904GTS on the street, in race tune with a single stinger exhaust, then several other 911s with straight pipes.  Guess it could be an age thing, or too many children in my life...Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    These don't seem to be doing that well in the US. I think the price is just way too high. I see 2014 TTS cars on eBay with less than 1K miles for $20K off MSRP. Some of these are probably only like a few months old too.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    I recently shopped for a Cayenne and there were more Turbo and Turbo S on the lot than the base Cayenne. 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    noone1:

    These don't seem to be doing that well in the US. I think the price is just way too high. I see 2014 TTS cars on eBay with less than 1K miles for $20K off MSRP. Some of these are probably only like a few months old too.

    I cannot say much about the US and how the 991 Turbo S sells there but while I love my car, I am disappointed with the exhaust sound and power/performance in the upper speed range (over 160 kph or 100 mph). I also think that the LED lights for the Turbo/S should have received a more aggressive and different design, same goes to the tail lights. A digital dashboard would have also made a difference, the car is way too close to the 997 Turbo/S, even if it is a huge improvement, incl. the exhaust sound.

    I "warned" Porsche that this may not be the "Benchmark" they are advertising this car as but I guess they had a budget and budgets don't go well with benchmarks. I'm afraid Porsche kind of underdelivered here and it may be reflected in sales numbers. It may...because I have no sales figures. All I know is that there seems to be more demand for the Turbo/S in Germany for example than the GT3. There is no alternative to the excellent quality of the Turbo/S as a daily driver, like it or not. I can see however why customers in regions like California, Florida and some "typical" rich owners spots are looking for alternatives. The 991 Turbo/S may not be special or different (vs 997 predecessors) enough for these people and I get it. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    Wonderbar:

    RC, didn't mean to imply that no sound is cool, but for me a quiet. low rumble is much more pleasing and less offensive than a brash, raucous, look at me exhaust sound.  For 99% of my driving in nice neighborhoods and metropolitan areas, I want less not  more noise.

    And I am the guy who for years drove a 904GTS on the street, in race tune with a single stinger exhaust, then several other 911s with straight pipes.  Guess it could be an age thing, or too many children in my life...Smiley

    Sydney, I get that but I also think that you got...old(er). angry I notice a similar development in myself but on the other hand, a nice exhaust sound is an important part of the driving experience. I am in Ibiza right now, driving a BMW 640d xDrive Cabriolet. Nice cruiser, especially for a sunny island but the Diesel sound sucks bigtime. I would never ever buy a Diesel cabriolet, this is for sure. What a disappointment.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    RC:
    noone1:

    These don't seem to be doing that well in the US. I think the price is just way too high. I see 2014 TTS cars on eBay with less than 1K miles for $20K off MSRP. Some of these are probably only like a few months old too.

    I cannot say much about the US and how the 991 Turbo S sells there but while I love my car, I am disappointed with the exhaust sound and power/performance in the upper speed range (over 160 kph or 100 mph). 

    Did you have any negative experiences compared to other cars? Or would you just prefer more to less Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    BTW, did you ever drive the 991 turbo S convertible? If so, how would you rank it compared to your car in terms of performance? 


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    MKSGR:

    BTW, did you ever drive the 991 turbo S convertible? If so, how would you rank it compared to your car in terms of performance? 

    The convertible doesn't feel much different, maybe a tiny bit heavier but you can barely feel it. The convertible actually sounds nicer (when driving open) but I guess this applies to all convertibles. Smiley

    The 991 Carrera S with PSE sounds very nice.  A variation with a "turbo touch" would have been OK.. Porsche tried, according to rumors but it didn't work out for them, don't know why (rumors indicate certification issues). Also, they wanted to add a nice "pop-off" sound, which apparently was not cleared for production by one of the CEO's. Bummer.

    A sportscar needs a nice sound and without the proper sound, it gets boring in my opinion.


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    RC:
    MKSGR:

    BTW, did you ever drive the 991 turbo S convertible? If so, how would you rank it compared to your car in terms of performance? 

    The convertible doesn't feel much different, maybe a tiny bit heavier but you can barely feel it. The convertible actually sounds nicer (when driving open) but I guess this applies to all convertibles. Smiley

     

    Many thanks Smiley And now: enjoy the Diesel on Ibiza Smiley


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    MKSGR:
    RC:
    MKSGR:

    BTW, did you ever drive the 991 turbo S convertible? If so, how would you rank it compared to your car in terms of performance? 

    The convertible doesn't feel much different, maybe a tiny bit heavier but you can barely feel it. The convertible actually sounds nicer (when driving open) but I guess this applies to all convertibles. Smiley

     

    Many thanks Smiley And now: enjoy the Diesel on Ibiza Smiley

     This is not funny. Smiley  Smiley The 6 series Cab is actually a very nice cabriolet cruiser for four people, especially in a speed limited region (most roads here are limited to speeds between 40 and 80 kph, which sucks but since people here apparently cannot drive, the speed limits are understandable). I just miss a nice V8 growl, it would be perfect for this car. 


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Turbo S, Porsche Boxster S (981), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014), BMW X3 35d (2013)


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    RC:
    MKSGR:
    RC:
    MKSGR:

    BTW, did you ever drive the 991 turbo S convertible? If so, how would you rank it compared to your car in terms of performance? 

    The convertible doesn't feel much different, maybe a tiny bit heavier but you can barely feel it. The convertible actually sounds nicer (when driving open) but I guess this applies to all convertibles. Smiley

     

    Many thanks Smiley And now: enjoy the Diesel on Ibiza Smiley

     This is not funny. Smiley  Smiley The 6 series Cab is actually a very nice cabriolet cruiser for four people, especially in a speed limited region (most roads here are limited to speeds between 40 and 80 kph, which sucks but since people here apparently cannot drive, the speed limits are understandable). I just miss a nice V8 growl, it would be perfect for this car. 

    The Audi diesels come with a speaker simulating a nice V8 growl Smiley


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    This should really be illegal.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    The TTS Cab does have a very good chainsaw sound on half throttle with the roof down. Anymore and the sound of the wind and motion of going v fast take over. Far earlier than in a Ferrari cab. My favorite cab was my old 355 GTS from 1999 which was just a crazy sound all the way unto 140mph+. So you loose the sound when you press on in the TTS cab.


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    2013 BMW 750 xDrive & 2014 x5 & 2014 991 TTS Cab


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    The F355 is one of the greatest sounding cars ever.  Every V8 Ferrari since makes me think they're trying too hard to make it sound sporty


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    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    GR:

    The F355 is one of the greatest sounding cars ever.  Every V8 Ferrari since makes me think they're trying too hard to make it sound sporty


    I agree. Smiley


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    The secret of life is to admire without desiring.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    For sound my AM Vantage with Larini exhaust trounces them all. Modern Ferrari can't come close.


    Re: OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S

    d997h:

    Couldn't you just - once in a while - show some humbleness to your fellow RT-members and refrain from answers like these, please !?!?! My post was not intended to make me feel jealous at the end!! Smiley My next time at the Garda lake will be in September only...Smiley

     

    Hello there!

    We'll back at lake garda also in september for only 3 days (14-16th).

    Hopefully the weather is better then last july... 6 days rain out of two weeks... never so bad.

     


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    965 3.3turbo/  993 targa / 996 cab /997S cab/996 GT3

    Audi R8  //  Audi A6 3.0 biturbo Quattro/Mini JCW/ 993 cab


     
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