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    Re: 997 c2 for sale!!!!!!!!!

    Now this is more than interesting: Porsche doesn't allow dealers to sell the 997 before 17th of July.
    As far as I know, they're not even allowed to put the 997 on display before that date. Earliest customer presentation is the evening of 16th of July.
    Now it is no secret that dealers get the cars earlier and of course it is no secret that interested customers might be able to see the car earlier and/or when they unload it from the transport truck.
    But what the Autosalon Singen is doing, is pretty spectacular, not to say astonishing. I cannot imagine Porsche has knowledge about this (well, now they have... ) but I also cannot imagine that the dealer who sold them the car won't get a few problems with mother Porsche.
    Unless this is just a press car which has been photographed without license plates for advertisemnet purposes only.

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    WOW - this is really astonishing!

    Can't believe this! And - they added a big extra charge to the price!

    .... you never now how the ways have been, they got this car!

    .... who of us is going to give a call to the Autosalon to check out the story of the car?

    L@rs

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    What's more astonishing is the quantity of awsome cars they have on display.

    Back in 98 i went to Zurick to see Depeche Mode live at the Hallenstadion or something like that arena and i remember visiting these place.

    It was full of awsome and rare cars, i went nuts.

    By watching their site looks like the place has grown.

    Nice 997 by the way.

    I also find it expensive (considering these is the price for Germnay) considering the fact the acording to Auto Foco Portuguese Magazine, 115k euros is going to be price of a normal carrera 2 in Portugal and we have one of the bigguest tax car in Europe.

    Woshhhhhhh.......

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    The Autosalon seems to be more than a museum. This place is only 30 minutes away from my Homeplace. So I check it out frequently. They have the rarest and most impressive cars on stock, you've ever seen.

    So - I really believe, that they have this 997 for sale. They want to make a quick money with someone which is going to pay overprice (i guess approx. 20-25k Euro ) for this car, just to have this car quit earlier!

    Currently I'm on a business trip. If I find some time this weekend, I'll go to check this place out and to see the 997!

    L@rs

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    Is that price real???? Comes out to $120,000 US??? Got to be kidding.

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    I have earlier been looking at their page and found their prices on the edge of being serious. I do not have examples from today though, but would imagine that one could bargain of a few thousands, unless if specific new models like this one.

    Further to this car there are a few 997 for sale on other german auto search sites at around EURO 92.500 with august-october delivery...not bad compared

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    Link is dead

    J.Seven

    The link still works........

    I just tried it again and it worked.
    Phil

    Re: 997 c2 for sale!!!!!!!!!

    Quote:
    RC said:
    But what the Autosalon Singen is doing, is pretty spectacular, not to say astonishing. I cannot imagine Porsche has knowledge about this (well, now they have... ) but I also cannot imagine that the dealer who sold them the car won't get a few problems with mother Porsche.




    Dealers in exotic cars have been known to advertise models which are in demand even though they do not have them in stock, just to create interest amongst potential customers. When they've got the customers on the hook, they then see how they can get hold of a suitable car at a shorter delivery than the franchised dealers might be able to offer, or sell that customer a different car from stock. Any almost-new cars are naturally sold at a "modest" mark-up on MRSP.

    It is sometimes easier to find a car when you have an eager customer than a customer when you have the lot full of cars.

    This dealer obviously has connections to someone who had a pre-release car on loan for test purposes, because dealers will not have got their first deliveries yet.

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    Auto Salon Singen certainly has very good connections, just check the rear vie mirror with mosquitoes and all, either this car has taken a serious test drive or was driven to the dealer in question, anyway, awesome, I love it !!! when people do this kind of out of bounds stuff.

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    Frissen said:
    Auto Salon Singen certainly has very good connections, just check the rear vie mirror with mosquitoes and all, either this car has taken a serious test drive or was driven to the dealer in question, anyway, awesome, I love it !!! when people do this kind of out of bounds stuff.



    Yes, sounds great to be able to get a 997 NOW, even if one ignores the incredible mark-up.
    But things aren't that easy: Porsche makes rules for their dealers and one rule says "no 997 before July 17th".
    So if the Autosalon Singen is really selling a 997 NOW for immediate delivery, something seems to be wrong.
    I mean Porsche puts "handcuffs" to their loyal dealers and an independent dealer doesn't care about it? Not that easy I'm afraid because mother Porsche still makes the rules.

    I think fritz is right. As I guessed before, this is probably a press or pre-production car which has been used for taking the photos only. The license plate probably has been removed and replaced with an ad plate from the Autosalon.
    After the photo shoot, the 997 on the picture probably went back to the factory.
    I don't think the car is really there because if Porsche finds out, no matter if the Autosalon is an independent dealer or not, the dealer who sold them the car (he can be identified through the VIN number) will be in serious trouble.
    I know from the past that Porsche is pretty serious about release dates and I cannot imagine that they overlook the 997 offered by Autosalon Singen. I also don't see that the Autosalon mentions "available for immediate delivery" or something similar.

    But IF this car is available NOW, it would be a sensation.

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    But IF this car is available NOW, it would be a sensation.



    Christian, even if this car is not for immediate delivery, it's just amazing what Autosalon is doing. Showing a 997 to public in an aftermarket dealer, when even the official Porsche dealers are not allowed to, is something that goes behond my mind. We're talking about almost a month before the official presentation, I really can't understand how this is possible.

    Porsche dealers are going to see and ride in the 997 somewhere in July in Portugal, and even the press and clients are not invited for this event. Portuguese Porsche dealer told me if the press wants to see the 997 during this event, they will have to climb the trees that sorround the Estoril Circuit ,and now we see a 997 in a public show room for everyone to see

    J.Seven

     
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