Crown

Board: Porsche - 911 - 997 Language: English Region: Worldwide Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread


    Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    Bonjour,

    It seems that the redesign of this web was followed by decreases in interesting  and numerous threads. IF I failed to check in once a week, I was 'behind'....not now. Ideas on this from everyone including the moderators  would be welcme.

    There are many 'members' who have bought series II 911s, from ownership of 2005+ 911s or Boxters/Cayman, and I recollect  few if any remarks on the new engine [changes in drivability etc etc]; on PASM generation II [significantly improved/modified from the 2005 design] characteristics affecting low and high speeds on rough or smooth surfaces; on the PDK from a truly   objective view point [ typically we have heard nothing but positives on the PDK , whereas there are weaknesses e.g. jerkiness/kluncking at  low speed , irregular throttle response depending upon gear engaged, mode chosen];  the drain of the battery compared with the 2005 Series I. 

    I will conribute my thoughts on these questions when the thread develops, but I re-ordered/traded my 2011 for the same model [within 3000km] with different options...that car is much more enjoyable and complete. 

    Over to you colleagues!

    Merci beaucoup, ALanM KiwiCanuck

    PS IF any of you know of a better Porsche web, I would be grateful! This one needs more engagement...how do we do that!?

     

     


    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    Alan,

    To address your first issue; yes, there seems to have been a certain decrease, however, at the moment the entire community seems to be holding its' breath for the introduction of the 991. Therefore, everything seems to be a bit quiet, and only speculation about the 997.2 GT3 rs 4.0 and Pilot 's and John H's recent threads about their new cars seem to draw the old-fashioned kind of attention. No worries, things will get better!

    With respect to your second question; no, there is no better Porsche web. In my opinion, there is no other forum that has such a high level of owners who are also enthusiasts, rather than either 17yo kids or owners who just like to show off.

    Looking forward to your threads with respect to technical/driveability issues, since I myself are not yet in the position to afford a 911, it's always nice to read about the real life issues of driving a supersportscar.

    Cheers,
    -Joost-


    --

    Porsche, seperates LeMans from LeBoys

    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    I don't think it has much to do with the the intro of RT.2 and more so with the global crisis and the mature stage of the 997 series. If i remember correct our 991 thread is way bigger than the 997 one was prior to its intro... Like Joost, said we're just holding our breath! People are working more and finances are tight all over...

    Don't worry lots of good things to come to talk about... 991, new boxster, 918, 929 etc.


    --

    indeed shifting is ancient technology - so is a fuel burning engine..  I happen to like both :) 


    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

     I have written quite a few times about my PDK in previous threads, and if you find them you will see that my comments are very different then what you suggest has been written. I remember also a few comments of unhappy owners of PDK.

    We also spoke about the new engine , and PASM has also been discussed.

    Maybe you do not check in RT enough regularly 


    --

     997.2 C2S, PDK, -20mm


    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    @KiwiCanuck: Alan, thanks for your post - but I must say that I don't share your perception. There has been a lot of discussion on a great many new models since the migration some years ago to RT2.0 so I'm surprised that you think this way. In fact, the list is so long that I can't list them all but some notable new Porsche models are 918 Spyder, 997 GT2 RS, 997 TTS PDK, 997 Speedster, 997 Carrera GTS, 911 Sport Classic ... all of these and many more have been discussed in considerable detail.

    Regarding the 991, the thread is huge - every aspect of that car is being discussed with a fine toothcomb and photoshop

    And then there are models from all the other marques: Lamborghini Aventador, Ferrari 458 Italia, McLaren MP4-12C etc.

    As for Porsche technology, there have, for example, been a wide range of views expressed on PDK. Some love it - others hate it and there are many with a love/hate relationship. So your view that there have been nothing but positives on RT regarding PDK is inaccurate in fact.

    If you wish to discuss these and other matters, you can rest assured, there are plenty of people here willing and able to discuss these things with you.

    Like Gnil, I think your views are more indicative of your infrequent visits here rather than being reflective of the reality on the ground.

    There's only one way to put that right - please come and visit more often


    --


    RT Moderator 
    - 997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm sports suspension/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen collection


    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    Alan - your reference to fewer new posts is, IMHO, partially due to the much improved search facility that R/T2 provides.  One can search and research just about any subject right back to R/T's conception, whereas previously there were multitudes of repeated threads under slightly differing titles...

    You don't see the comment  "Oh no! not that question again" anything like as often as you do on other forums or did on R/T1.

    I don't mean to be rude, but your personal contribution of 199 posts in five and a half years is hardly conducive with pushing up the total threads is it?  I mean.. why not comment on your own experiences rather than wait for a lead.  It's good that you've started this thread and I'm really glad you did... but not necessarily for the same reason.

    In reply to your comments on PDK, I think most negative remarks come from people trying it for the first time without living with it and learning how to use it properly.  It took me well over a month to get the hang of being in the right driving mode and gear to suit the prevailing traffic conditions.  So, yes there can be some jerkiness, but only if the driver is in the wrong mode/gear for the conditions at the time.

    Having said all that it's really good to hear from you again..

     

     


    --

    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."


    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    @KiwiCanuck: here are my own detailed thoughts on PDK (both positive and negative - but mostly negative) when I tested it on the PDE circuit at Silverstone.

    http://www.rennteam.com/forum/thread/457852/Re_Mk2_997__PDE_Silverstone_8708/page1.html#p457852

    Photos of my visit to PDE Silverstone

    http://www.rennteam.com/forum/thread/457816/Easy_Rider_at_PDE_Silverstone/page1.html#p457816

    --

    RT Moderator - 997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm sports suspension/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen collection


    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    easy_rider911:

    @KiwiCanuck: here are my own detailed thoughts on PDK (both positive and negative - but mostly negative) when I tested it on the PDE circuit at Silverstone.

    IMO, the merits of the PDK system cannot be recognized in the context of a test drive or even in the duration of a driving event. Due to its various modes it takes time to acclimatize in order to get the best out of the system. You need to learn when to use what mode among the 6 available and how to modulate the gas pedal and the brake pedal to bring the desired outcome in Auto.

    I came from a series of manual cars including several Porsches, but after 2+ years with PDK I would never go back to the "stick". I am not claiming that PDK is the best DCT system because I only have experience of DSG and not of any others.


    --

    "Form follows function"


    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    Noted - everyone has their preferences. As far as I am concerned, I didn't like the lack of interaction. I need a gear lever


    --


    RT Moderator 
    - 997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm sports suspension/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen collection


    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    easy_rider911:

    Noted - everyone has their preferences. As far as I am concerned, I didn't like the lack of interaction. I need a gear lever

    But there is a gear lever in the case of PDK, albeit different. I think what you need really is the clutch pedal to control and feel engaging and disengaging power.


    --

    "Form follows function"


    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    I know - but it's not just a clutch pedal that I would miss (although that is one aspect). It's also the way one operates the gear lever. Moving it forward or back to change up/down 'digitally' (i.e. without gear slots) is just not my thing. I like moving the lever 'mechanically' from slot to slot. It's one of those few 'analogue' pleasures that should remain IMvHO Smiley

    reginos, I know what I like

    --

    RT Moderator - 997.1 C2S GT Silver/Cocoa, -20mm sports suspension/LSD, PSE, short shifter, SportDesign rims, Zuffenhausen collection


    Re: Lack of responses to threads, and of new threads

    reginos:

    IMO, the merits of the PDK system cannot be recognized in the context of a test drive or even in the duration of a driving event. Due to its various modes it takes time to acclimatize in order to get the best out of the system. You need to learn when to use what mode among the 6 available and how to modulate the gas pedal and the brake pedal to bring the desired outcome in Auto.

    That's precisely what I was trying to communicate in my post above...you have described it with much more fluency than I was able to convey.. Smiley

    @ Easy - you really should try PDK with paddles and sport design steering wheel - it really is a different dimension.... given the time to master it!..Smiley

     


    --

    "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out."


     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA 1/19/18 7:06 AM
    Gnil
    263223 1685
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: New 991.2 GT3 (2017) 1/17/18 2:59 PM
    throt
    260066 4017
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: 911 GT2 RS (2017) 1/19/18 5:56 AM
    nberry
    88589 1353
    Porsche Sticky 992 (Next 911 generation 2019/2020) 1/12/18 7:11 PM
    the-missile
    67392 673
    Porsche Sticky Porsche Mission E - the future of Porsche? 1/3/18 8:32 PM
    CGX car nut
    39832 468
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo S Exclusive Series (2017) 11/28/17 12:15 AM
    EnglishManInNY
    23904 332
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: New Porsche Carrera T 12/1/17 7:24 PM
    crayphile
    13708 243
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Porsche 718 GTS models (Oct. 2017) 10/24/17 12:19 PM
    amazon
    7191 19
    Porsche 918 latest news Thread Closed 11/6/17 10:43 AM
    RCA
    547965 5574
    Porsche 991 GT3 RS 1/9/18 1:43 PM
    Kimi
    456263 5816
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 991 Turbo and Turbo S 10/26/17 1:33 PM
    NSXER
    446040 4239
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 2016 Porsche Carrera 911 [991.2] Facelift 3/24/17 12:49 PM
    RCA
    254727 1382
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 911 R (2016) 1/4/18 9:14 PM
    wurlie
    247498 2558
    Porsche 997 GT3 RS 4.0 3/15/17 10:40 PM
    noone1
     
     
     
     
     
    231200 737
    Porsche Cayman GT4 12/30/17 11:07 AM
    Boxster Coupe GTS
    212972 2482
    Porsche 991 GT2 RS (2017) - Rumors, speculations and gossip Thread Closed 7/3/17 2:04 PM
    RCA
    175455 1699
    Porsche The moment I've been waiting for... 11/13/17 2:32 AM
    Pilot
     
     
     
     
     
    164802 874
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New 991.2 Turbo and Turbo S 12/15/17 1:44 PM
    RCA
    164285 1072
    Ferrari 488 GTB/GTS 1/19/18 8:02 AM
    pmarkow
    140200 1199
    McLaren McLaren on a winning streak 1/8/18 12:32 PM
    rhino
    138937 2855
    Porsche 991.2 GT3 Thread Closed 3/7/17 11:47 AM
    RCA
    124971 1651
    Porsche Boxster Spyder (981) 12/29/17 8:31 AM
    dreamcar
    110472 692
    Porsche Collected my 997 GTS today 1/22/17 7:32 AM
    BiTurbo
     
     
     
     
     
    108149 801
    Porsche OFFICIAL: New Panamera (2016) 1/6/18 10:41 PM
    Wonderbar
    108064 1284
    Others Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016 model) - Review (updated Feb 13th 2017) 1/18/18 11:38 AM
    RCA
    105568 1869
    Ferrari Ferrari F12 Berlinetta / 599 GTO Successor 12/5/17 3:29 PM
    RCA
    87034 765
    Porsche OFFICIAL: 718 Boxster (2016) 10/20/17 11:17 AM
    DaveGordon
    81691 732
    Others VW caught cheating emissions tests 7/10/17 2:36 PM
    RCA
    81178 861
    Porsche 991 GTS 4/3/17 4:27 PM
    bluelines
    68293 247
    Porsche OFFICIAL: Cayenne (958) Facelift 2014 3/2/17 4:22 PM
    RCA
    66935 163
    372 items found, displaying 1 to 30.